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Originally Posted by That Guy

the universe is infinite so that proves god?

No one and nothing "proves" the existence of God in the manner you seek it.
No right minded christian would assert as such. Belief in God is a leap of faith, for some, the leap is a manageable distance. For others, it is a cavernous distance that only a fool would attempt.

Originally Posted by That Guy

i dunno, i can procedurally generate game content thanks to my PC (textures, objects, worlds etc) throw in a random seed, and off it goes. artificial intelligence has been "gene-seeded" from nothing (give it a problem, have it do random things, anything that helps get the goal is kept and try it again).

there's also a lot of symmetry between water/electrical/light based system (plumbing has the equivalent of a transistor for example) and rays/waves, so maybe that's just the extrapolation of micro forces/rulesets (physics/mechanics)...

You may be right. The universe may just be running on a set of incredibly complex extrapolations from an original point. However (1) Such a theory is just as unprovable as the existence of God; and (2) The question of origin remains - how were the extrapolations set in motion? Did they spring from nothingness? Was a blank universe "programed" somehow? Even if running on giant infinitely continous "loop" program, how was the universe set in motion?

As to the origin, Atheists, as I understand it, assert either (1) nothing came from nothing and eventually we will be able to prove it; or (2) no f'ing clue, but, however, it happened it is or will be explainable by the scientific method.

Theists simply say - no f'ing clue but it was the result of a creator who's ulitmate and entire being cannot be proven by the scientific method.