Another school Shooting Nevada

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Fine. You prefer dead kids over a potential marginal rise in assaults. I'm glad that I am not one of your kids.

I prefer a *miniscule* possibility of mass murder to the horrendous rise across the board in violent crime afflicted on those in society least able to defend themselves. Here's an article from WSJ, inculding numbers that can easily be verified.

In 2008, the Australian Institute of Criminology reported a decrease of 9% in homicides and a one-third decrease in armed robbery since the 1990s, but an increase of over 40% in assaults and 20% in sexual assaults.

Originally Posted by Lotus

Notice that the potential marginal rise in assault and rape does not have a clear correlation with the Aussie gun ban, as Matty indicated. But even if I grant that correlation, you still choose dead kids.

I choose the rational position of LESS.

Originally Posted by Lotus

Most people would be horrified to make that choice

It was your hysterically hypothetical question, I'm not out there killing kids.

Originally Posted by Lotus

and the same goes with if we talked about rape. Assault and rape, which are deplorable, happen to individuals, usually adults.

What does that mean?

Originally Posted by Lotus

Also, in the case of Australia we are talking only about a marginal rise.

No, YOU'RE talking about marginal, without substantiating that number. Stop telling lies.

Originally Posted by Lotus

Conversely, mass shootings, the subject of this thread, involve bunches of people, often kids. And the Aussies basically ended such events.

You're not very good with numbers, are you? How many people died in the Australian massacre? 35 dead, 21 wounded. Now how many THOUSANDS of people have their lives irrevocably changed because someone bigger, stronger than them imposed themselves violently?

Originally Posted by Lotus

And if you think that shootings of multiple kids is a "rarity," as you say, I suggest that you read a newspaper. Or just read the title of the thread. It has happened multiple times this year and we are still only in October.

Or we could look at the facts with a little bladder control:



Without minimizing the pain and suffering of the hundreds of who have been victimized in senseless attacks, the facts say clearly that the has been no increase in mass killings, and certainly no epidemic. Occasionally, we have witnessed short-term spikes with several shootings clustering close together in time.
In the 1980s, we had a flurry of postal shootings, and the 1990s included a half dozen schoolyard massacres. Other than the copycatting reflected in these cases, the clustering of mass murders is nothing more than random timing and sheer coincidence.


You're far too emotional to discuss the topic, you lack clarity. It must be difficult being as scared as you are so I should cut you some slack.

Originally Posted by Lotus

I'll never forget that you argued that more kids should die.

J/K! You're still the fantasy world dwelling, bed-wetting, hysterical, hyperbole hurling, intellectual pygmy I've grown to love.

Stick to facts and stop making shit up.

p.s Dear Matty, I hope this meets my quota for insults, my style of rhetoric is extremely hostile (duh!) as opposed to Lotus' syrup-coated line of utter pus. People are free to ignore the thread, contribute, wade in swinging or sit on the sidelines and laugh.