Choose Your 2014 Redskins Head Coach

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Who on that list is overpaid? Cofield? Bowen? Garcon? Beyond those three the rest of the contracts we gave out where basically peanuts in terms of size. I think all three have played well. (especially garcon/cofield) Bottom line is, they don't have a defensive coordinator worth a shit. Yes, I realize this is on Mike, and I've stated as much. In fact, I think you need to review my posts in regards to Mike, and they'd silence you for the most part. Why? Because most of the points are exactly what you are saying. That doesn't make Mike a bad coach, it makes him a bad GM. I think Carroll has struck gold in the draft 2010 and 2011 on the defensive side of the ball. Notice none of his offensive picks have really done much of anything beyond Wilson. A good defense can carry you a long ways in this league.

Mike's unwillingness and stubbornness in changing coordinators will ultimately be his downfall. (this includes his son)




No, they (OL) don't hold up when he has to drop back for any kind of duration. It's not all on the OL either, it's a indecisive QB who's learning his position as well. I think it's more on Kyle than Mike at this point, which is exactly why I want him to move on. He's not trying to use RGIII to his strengths, but rather force him into his offense

I am putting out those players because I am making the point that he was still able to completely change the roster. Your version of overpaid and my version might be different but the point is he was still able to go after players.
From what I am reading it seems you are pinning the failure of Shanahan on his coordinators and his refusal to remove them. That is a hard distinction to make. If all three phases of a team is bad, how is the head coach not responsible? I could understand if the defense was bad but the offense was great... that is not the case. What does a head coach do if he is not responsible for any phase of the team? If the coordinators have that much control than Shanahan isn't the head coach, he just has the label.

Okung is rated by some as being as good as Trent Williams, he has been injured this year but he is a top 10 tackle in the NFL. Doug Baldwin was undrafted but he is one of the best number 2 receivers in the NFL. It is hard to compare the Skins and Seahawks because the Seahawks really only draft defensive players. Drafting isn't just luck, there is a reason great teams draft well, because they know what they want and they actually develop their players. Development is one of the most essential aspects in drafting. Again there is a reason that great teams seem to always steal players in the draft. Its not just that they strike gold.

Shanahan has drafted and developed two good offensive players, Morris and Williams, if he is an offensive genius, that is pathetic.

I agree that RG3 has been holding on to the ball too long and receivers aren't getting open, but like you said, that is on the Offensive staff (including Mike) for not developing RG3 and the offensive players.

I am not saying Carroll is the best coach in the NFL, nor is his legacy better than Shanahans... but if you compare the two when they took over their teams, Carroll has been the better coach in almost every aspect of coaching.