Fixing the Secondary

[Chico23231]

So Reed is irreplaceable now? wow, if that doesnt scream upgrade the secondary...

[punch it in]

This thread is depressing. Lol

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So Reed is irreplaceable now? wow, if that doesnt scream upgrade the secondary...

Don't think anybody is saying he's a good starter. He's a good backup and provides excellent depth along with special teams play.

He's still better than BM.

[JoeRedskin]

Delmas is a good safety but has ailing knees apparently. He was on a practice regimen that let him sit for two days a week.

I thought we had some interest in him last year but couldn't pony up the cash. Now Detroit is cutting him one year into his contract. I think he is a very good safety (a "legitimate starting safety") but wouldn't tie too much money in the guy or get into a bidding war over him. I am also concerned that we may not get more than 8 games out of the guy b/c of his knees.

[Jayroc24]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Delmas is a good safety but has ailing knees apparently. He was on a practice regimen that let him sit for two days a week.

I thought we had some interest in him last year but couldn't pony up the cash. Now Detroit is cutting him one year into his contract. I think he is a very good safety (a "legitimate starting safety") but wouldn't tie too much money in the guy or get into a bidding war over him. I am also concerned that we may not get more than 8 games out of the guy b/c of his knees.

Yea, I'm with you Joe..... no more part time guys.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Delmas is a good safety but has ailing knees apparently. He was on a practice regimen that let him sit for two days a week.

I thought we had some interest in him last year but couldn't pony up the cash. Now Detroit is cutting him one year into his contract. I think he is a very good safety (a "legitimate starting safety") but wouldn't tie too much money in the guy or get into a bidding war over him. I am also concerned that we may not get more than 8 games out of the guy b/c of his knees.

Exactly. I have a much bigger problem signing guys who are oft-injuried than guys over 30. Kinda changed my mind with H. Nicks because of that. No reason to pay a guy who plays half the game or suspended a couple games (B Merriweather).

[SkinsFanOttawa]

I understand the concern about Delmas' knees but he also played in all 16 games last year. He got cut because of the Lions' horrible salary cap situation where Suh and Stafford has them by the balls.

He is only 26 but the problem is I think he'll be asking for at least $5-6M/year but I'd rather give that to him than $3M to Meriweather.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanOttawa

I understand the concern about Delmas' knees but he also played in all 16 games last year. He got cut because of the Lions' horrible salary cap situation where Suh and Stafford has them by the balls.

He is only 26 but the problem is I think he'll be asking for at least $5-6M/year but I'd rather give that to him than $3M to Meriweather.

THIS. Get merriweather and doughty out of town, both are liabilities, if we are IMPROVING the secondary, then lets improve it. Quit holding on to these sub par players who take up roster space, cap dollars, and valuable game time away from our youngsters and free agents who COULD actually make an impact, and could perform to a level where we aren't the worst secondary in the league.

New coaching staff, new secondary except our young guys and DHall. If we want sub par players who are a liablity, at least let the coaching staff choose their own liabilities.

[SirLK26]

Brandon Meriweather was our best safety last year, as well as the defense's hardest hitter. I think the wisest move at SS is to sign a fairly cheap vet(Chris Clemons)and let them compete for the starting spot. Meriweather played quite well near the end of this season.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Brandon Meriweather was our best safety last year, as well as the defense's hardest hitter. I think the wisest move at SS is to sign a fairly cheap vet(Chris Clemons)and let them compete for the starting spot. Meriweather played quite well near the end of this season.

First of all, to say that Meriweather was our best safety last season is like putting lipstick on a pig. If he played well near the end of last season, I must have missed it. Besides, what did he do to help us win before we lost ten or eleven games?

You can forget about Meriweather because he is as good as gone. Phillip Thomas has a much better chance of becoming our starting SS than Meriweather does.

Clemons is not a SS and he won't be cheap to sign. He is a quality FS who I think could help us but he wouldn't be competing with Meriweather or anyone else if we should be lucky enough to sign him. He would be our starting FS.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

First of all, to say that Meriweather was our best safety last season is like putting lipstick on a pig. If he played well near the end of last season, I must have missed it. Besides, what did he do to help us win before we lost ten or eleven games?

You can forget about Meriweather because he is as good as gone. Phillip Thomas has a much better chance of becoming our starting SS than Meriweather does.

Clemons is not a SS and he won't be cheap to sign. He is a quality FS who I think could help us but he wouldn't be competing with Meriweather or anyone else if we should be lucky enough to sign him. He would be our starting FS.

Clemons plays both safety positions. The reason I have him at SS is because I had Kendrick Lewis as our FS. As for his salary, the Dolphins had him on a 1 year deal worth 2.75 million. That's in the neighborhood of Meriweather's salary.

To your last sentence in the first paragraph: I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you suggesting that Meriweather is one of the main reasons we lost so many games? Because I maintain that outside of Hall, he was the best DB.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Brandon Meriweather was our best safety last year,

No. RD played better than BM did. That said, our play from the safety position as a whole sucked balls.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Brandon Meriweather was our best safety last year, as well as the defense's stupidest hitter. I think the wisest move at SS is to sign a fairly cheap vet(Chris Clemons)and let them compete for the starting spot. Meriweather played quite well near the end of this season.

I fixed that for you.

[whistler]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No. RD played better than BM did. That said, our play from the safety position as a whole sucked balls.

Skins need to utilize the talent that they have:
cut/release: Merriweather
sign: FS
resign: Hall
Build with: Crawford, Amerson, Minnefield. Biggers, Thomas, Rambo

Improve the players that are here, give them an opportunity to get better, and put them in position to be good

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I fixed that for you.

That's another way of putting it, yes. But a safety who has the ability to light up a receiver is a good thing.