is the NFL shady or legit ?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

you guys keep saying 'fix'. there is no fix, the NFL is legally allowed to manipulate games as they choose because they are an entertainment business as government has said so.

the Pats made it to a conference championship last year with 14 signed rookies. I'm sorry but Brady and Belichick aren't that good LOL and its their 14th year of success including the SB with the Packers before the 14 year run.

Easy to tell that you have never played the game yourself . Look I don't know if you lost a lot of money or play to much madden but I think the thread should be locked .

[MTK]

People can convince themselves (and others) of just about anything these days. See Jenny McCarthy and the whole anti-vaccine BS.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Then why are you a fan? What's the point of fandom if it is all determined in a smoky back room?

This. I think it would be naive to believe at some point in time, some people didn't get together to conspire to fix a game, and I'm sure it's happened. But going WWE style and fixing every match all the way to the SB? Lol. That's just insanity.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

People can convince themselves (and others) of just about anything these days. See Jenny McCarthy and the whole anti-vaccine BS.

I go to work laughing my ass off at the tin-foil hat crowd and come back to see that it's still going strong. Brilliant!

Can a game be influenced by a Ref, manager/coach or player? Sure. Does it happen? Probably. Is it really, really, bad for the sports' "entertainment business" if it does? Yup. Because of that, when it is discovered do bad things happen to the cheaters? Yup.

Donaghy sentenced to 15 months in prison in gambling scandal - NBA - ESPN
[http://assets.espn.go.com/classic/s/...-betting.html]
[Last I checked - Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe, still banned from MLB HOF]

Is there some conspiracy by the Elders of NFL Zion to script the outcomes of any games? Bring something to the table beyond speculative conclusions based on convenient circumstances sited out of context (i.e. - A youtube clip is no longer viewable - I guess that is the only NFL related clip that's been removed in the last 10 years or so. Similarly, for every "magical" event cited there are hundreds of similar events in games each season at which no one bats an eye). Manipulated coincidences, Unsupported allegations and self-serving statements by exposed cheaters are the meat and potatoes of stupid people eager to believe bad things happen b/c shadow groups run the world.

Truly - conspiracy theorists are some of the best entertainment around. Unfortunately, the fact that initially makes them so damn funny - they take themselves so damn seriously - is the same thing that eventually makes them so incredibly tiresome. I feel like saying to them:

"Okay, Okay! That was a seriously funny joke the first six times I heard it. I mean, milk up my nose funny! However, its been six weeks, can you please stop shouting it at the top of your lungs every day during my lunch hour? Please?"

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

what conspiracy ? the league is an entertainment business and allowed to bend games as they choose. The Government recognizes them as such.

Brilliant legal analysis.

Wait, let me guess. You stayed at a Holiday Inn recently.

[Hog1]

I started reading some of the responses in this thread and theorized it was some kind of memorial thread to.....perhaps Offis....or maybe a stupid bomb exploded in the WP server??

[JoeRedskin]

"a stupid bomb exploded in the WP server"

ROFL!! Nailed it.

[MTK]

Good note to end this on. Thank god we have a game tomorrow.