Game Thread: Patriots vs. Redskins

[MTK]

Gruden is tied to Griffin's hip. Cousins won't play unless Griffin is hurt or is an utter disaster, which simply won't happen.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

I listened to a few mins of sports talk radio coming in to work and yes, one caller out of the 2 beat that drum - "RG3 is never going to be a pocket passer, his fundamentals are a lot farther behind than people think and cousins is a lot further along as a pocket passer".

the radio host, to his credit, rhetorically asked if RG3 needs to be a pure pocket passer and that we drafted him in part bc of his speed and athleticism and the things he can do outside of just being a pocket passer.

I do believe RG3 has trouble reading Ds pre-snap and going through his progressions but ..... HE IS NOT A PURE POCKET PASSER! he is a once in a lifetime athlete that throws a pretty ball. he is young and has room and time to grow.

like sports radio was saying yesterday .. why cant he be a steve young? why cant he use his arm and, if it is not there, strategically use his feet?

rg3 is the best hope we have had in almost 2 decades.

we will ride or die with rg3. there are things i dont like about RG3 but i am all in with him.

I don't agree with we "ride or die" with RG3 just because of the investment. This team expects to win now, this year. He has to perform now. But fans calling in after 4 attempts in a pre season game is just so ridiculous on so many levels.

[skinsfan69]

Early prediction, Rak has a career year and gets 16-18 sacks. Solider was on skates... not only last night, but in the practices as well.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Like sports radio was saying yesterday .. why cant he be a steve young? why cant he use his arm and, if it is not there, strategically use his feet?

Steve Young is the player I think RGIII most resembled when he was in college. I also think that what you wrote about how he should be used may be just what Jay Gruden has in mind for him. I hope so. We need RGIII for the long term. He should not be used like a RB.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Early prediction, Rak has a career year and gets 16-18 sacks. Solider was on skates... not only last night, but in the practices as well.

Solder is a capable LT, too. I also think that Rak may be ready to join the ranks of elite pass rushers this season.

[Lotus]

All this talk of Cousins starting is crazy. Our best QB last night was Colt McCoy. He completed 89% of his passes with a YPA above 11!

Start McCoy now!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't agree with we "ride or die" with RG3 just because of the investment. This team expects to win now, this year. He has to perform now. But fans calling in after 4 attempts in a pre season game is just so ridiculous on so many levels.

How does this team expect to win now, this year? It's a first year headcoach, predicted by most rags to come in 4th in a weak NFC East. If Gruden and RG3 grow together, show improvement and cohesion then that should be what the team/FO/Owner expect.

As for me as a fan, anything less than Matty's 16-0, and they FAILED!

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How does this team expect to win now, this year? It's a first year headcoach, predicted by most rags to come in 4th in a weak NFC East. If Gruden and RG3 grow together, show improvement and cohesion then that should be what the team/FO/Owner expect.

As for me as a fan, anything less than Matty's 16-0, and they FAILED!

19-0 for me

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Are folks calling dc sports talk radio talking about cousins starting
Qb again? Wow

Like you said before, it's never too early.

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Gruden is tied to Griffin's hip. Cousins won't play unless Griffin is hurt or is an utter disaster, which simply won't happen.

Not sure I agree 100% with this. I think if Robert has a bad year this year, you could see QB competition in the 2015 training camp. That said, I do agree with Robert not being benched this year unless it's under those two circumstances you mentioned.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't agree with we "ride or die" with RG3 just because of the investment. This team expects to win now, this year. He has to perform now. But fans calling in after 4 attempts in a pre season game is just so ridiculous on so many levels.

I think there will be a huge improvement in RG3 this year, by mid-season he'll be just fine. Expect some early struggles though as he grasps the new Gruden O.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Its just one kickoff. His streak is much more telling of his talent than one botched kickoff. He could lose the job if Hocker is awesome, he might not. In the end, I think we will be fine with either, they are both young, and I think any team would be happy to have either of them to develop. I say we are fine at the K position. Now, we just have to worry about our ST coverage. That was the key to at least 2 lost games last year, maybe even more. That HAS to improve for us to be in the convo for NFC East crown, which I think all the other aspects of our team are good enough to challenge for.

It wasn't just one. He kicked one short and one out of bounds. That's two bad kick-offs. He also missed a FG and one hit the upright.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How does this team expect to win now, this year? It's a first year headcoach, predicted by most rags to come in 4th in a weak NFC East. If Gruden and RG3 grow together, show improvement and cohesion then that should be what the team/FO/Owner expect.

As for me as a fan, anything less than Matty's 16-0, and they FAILED!

I don't think you go out and sign Jackson, Roberts, Clark, Hatcher, keep several coaches from Shanahan's staff to have a 6 win season. I think the expectations are playoffs/ 10 wins and I don't see why they can't do it. The division looks somewhat weak. But so much of it depends on Griffin.

[That Guy]

good:
WRs (robinson, grant, ross)
RBs (seastrunk/redd)
backup QBs not looking terrible (minus kirk's boneheaded first throw)
playcalling (we weren't stupifyingly pass happy)
OL in general seemed to do it's job.

not good:
murphy didn't really show a lot of crazy goodness
kai wasn't good
kick coverage allowed some big returns
RBs (thompson/royster didn't make much of a case for themselves)


only the preseason, vanilla, no game planning (and no tom brady) etc, so not going to get super hyped, but we looked pretty solid. if we have a top 10 offense and top 20 defense, we should be alright. right now it seems possible.

[MTK]

Watched some of the game again and focused in on Moses. Definitely a lot of potential there, needs to focus on staying low and keeping those knees bent. Stays too upright at times and let's guys get under his pads. He obviously got away with it in college because he's just so damn big. Polumbus is safe for another season.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Watched some of the game again and focused in on Moses. Definitely a lot of potential there, needs to focus on staying low and keeping those knees bent. Stays too upright at times and let's guys get under his pads. He obviously got away with it in college because he's just so damn big. Polumbus is safe for another season.

Agree. They should send Moses to yoga class.