Carolina not happy with Gardner?

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i don't see whats skinsguy said that was so offensive or deserved such deep analysis...

he didn't say anything offensive. just sounded like he was trying to start a discussion/argument about something, i just didn't know what.

[BDBohnzie]

Can't we all just get along? this is a message board...ideas, thoughts, etc may come off differently to others. Not everyone reads into things the same. No use in dragging it out over several messages. If you want to settle it, take it to the PMs.

BOT, Gardner is certainly showing his true colors, but I think if he was still a Skin, he'd be producing. I am a Gardner supporter, but obviously the Skins went in a different direction. Business decision. He can still be a good receiver, however he won't be a 1 or 2 in Carolina, and that could be weighting his decision to slack. I wouldn't be surprised to see him released.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

BOT, Gardner is certainly showing his true colors, but I think if he was still a Skin, he'd be producing. I am a Gardner supporter, but obviously the Skins went in a different direction. Business decision. He can still be a good receiver, however he won't be a 1 or 2 in Carolina, and that could be weighting his decision to slack. I wouldn't be surprised to see him released.

didn't know you guys existed, what about Gardner was to like? he wasn't blazing and he wasn't clutch. er, or he was only clutch but not regular enough, you know what i'm saying.

[jamf]

Im still a gardner supporter. i think he will be fine. why so much hate for former skins? its getting a little rediculous. moss isnt going to average 30yards per catch all year(unless he gets hurt) and gardner isnt going to be inactive all year.

its funny no one mentioned that chad morton returned a punt for the giants last week or that bailey beat SD on an interceptioin return for TD(with a dislocated shoulder). how about Gus' 300 yard day for miami?

different players fit different systems. our system last year couldnt win if they had Montana, rice, monk, swann, Payton and the hogs.

we caught a glimpse of what Gibbs wants to do, but im still cautiously optimistic that we will be able to execute it with the players we have.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by jamf

Im still a gardner supporter. i think he will be fine. why so much hate for former skins? its getting a little rediculous. moss isnt going to average 30yards per catch all year(unless he gets hurt) and gardner isnt going to be inactive all year.

its funny no one mentioned that chad morton returned a punt for the giants last week or that bailey beat SD on an interceptioin return for TD(with a dislocated shoulder). how about Gus' 300 yard day for miami?

different players fit different systems. our system last year couldnt win if they had Montana, rice, monk, swann, Payton and the hogs.

we caught a glimpse of what Gibbs wants to do, but im still cautiously optimistic that we will be able to execute it with the players we have.

the hate is usually simply because they AREN'T skins, but like i still support Stephen Davis because he was productive here and helped us a lot. he did everything he was supposed to here. Morton and Frerotte didn't and Champ bad mouthed the franchise hence the hate.

system or not, Gardner just dropped too many catchable passes for us, the most basic thing he's supposed to do so there's no love lost

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jamf

Im still a gardner supporter. i think he will be fine. why so much hate for former skins? its getting a little rediculous. moss isnt going to average 30yards per catch all year(unless he gets hurt) and gardner isnt going to be inactive all year.

its funny no one mentioned that chad morton returned a punt for the giants last week or that bailey beat SD on an interceptioin return for TD(with a dislocated shoulder). how about Gus' 300 yard day for miami?

different players fit different systems. our system last year couldnt win if they had Montana, rice, monk, swann, Payton and the hogs.

we caught a glimpse of what Gibbs wants to do, but im still cautiously optimistic that we will be able to execute it with the players we have.

Actually all of those were mentioned at some point, Champ's INT, Morton's return and Gus's big game in wk 1.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by jamf

Im still a gardner supporter. i think he will be fine. why so much hate for former skins? its getting a little rediculous. moss isnt going to average 30yards per catch all year(unless he gets hurt) and gardner isnt going to be inactive all year.

its funny no one mentioned that chad morton returned a punt for the giants last week or that bailey beat SD on an interceptioin return for TD(with a dislocated shoulder). how about Gus' 300 yard day for miami?

different players fit different systems. our system last year couldnt win if they had Montana, rice, monk, swann, Payton and the hogs.

we caught a glimpse of what Gibbs wants to do, but im still cautiously optimistic that we will be able to execute it with the players we have.

gus and chad were both mentioned...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by illdefined

didn't know you guys existed

those bastards.

[illdefined]

heh, nah i wasn't being facetious at all, i'm genuinely surprised there were Gardner supporters out there. missed that debate sorry

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by jamf

its funny no one mentioned that chad morton returned a punt for the giants last week or that bailey beat SD on an interceptioin return for TD(with a dislocated shoulder). how about Gus' 300 yard day for miami?

different players fit different systems. our system last year couldnt win if they had Montana, rice, monk, swann, Payton and the hogs.

i'm not sure what last years offensive system has to do with morton, bailey and gus. morton was on special teams while bailey and gus weren't even on our team last year.

believe you me, if we had montana,rice,monk,swann,payton and the hogs on the team last year, the skins would have won the superbowl. yes you need a good system but you also need good players, gardner is NOT a good player..........he pretty much sucks.