Jay Gruden you are our only hope

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Originally Posted by Lotus

You have cherry-picked quotes out of context. In context, what you find is him calling out others, too. And, given what I've seen and heard, I'm not sure that those moments when RGIII does appear to be self-critical are sincere.

Chico is right. You can't be an NFL QB and talk like RGIII. Manning, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady publicly criticize ONLY themselves. And, perhaps more importantly, they take their self-criticism seriously.

RGIII is smart enough to fix all of his problems, begging the question of why he hasn't done so. The best apparent answer to this question is that he is too arrogant to truly, sincerely admit his shortcomings, much less fix them. He appears to be the Lavar Arrington of QB's: too full of himself to play within someone else's system.

I have staunchly supported RGIII but my respect for him has taken a hard knock this week.

You said he was too arrogant to admit that he f*cked up. Those quotes show otherwise.

And it's interesting that you brought up cherry-picking, given that this whole "controversy" came about because some dumbsh*t media members and fans cherrypicked the "calling out" quotes that started the whole thing. Griffin never really criticized anybody, I took it more as him wanting accountability. Kaepernick earlier this year flat out said that his offensive line needed to play better; Griffin said nothing like that.


And you and Chico say that the great QBs don't say anything like Griffin did. Allow me to "cherry-pick" some quotes from a press conference by one Tom Brady.

"It was just a bad performance by everybody..."

"The guys who have opportunities to make plays, we’ve got to make them. That’s me, certainly, and skill players and we’ve got to do more on first down"

"I mean I think there’s not much that we’re doing well enough on a consistent basis to score points. Run game, pass game, consistently when we have to throw it, when we have to run it, convert on third down, red area, it’s all a problem."

"I think it’s not necessarily one position, it’s all positions."(talking about the team needing to do a better job)

"I mean, I think certainly running the ball and stopping the run is important to the physical toughness of the team. You just lose control of the game and it becomes one-dimensional like it did there in the third quarter and we stopped running it."(Patriots couldn't stop the run in this game)

"It’s not one posititon on offense, it’s everybody and certainly the play-makers that we have and the skill guys, we’ve all got to make plays."