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Old 05-11-2015, 06:15 PM   #1096
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So Brady gets a longer suspension for deflating footballs than Ray Rice got for punching his girlfriend?
Well, perhaps if there had been a video of him deflating the balls.......
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:15 PM   #1097
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Little harsh IMO for Brady, but 1st and a 4th round pick on top of that is like dayummmm
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:25 PM   #1098
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I'm think its more about the NFLs integrity and rule tampering.
= setting an example for possible future wrong doers
I think the whole this is fuxxored.
If I was Brady I would tell the media in a polite way that Goodell is a giant douche bag and as a result of that.....I'm retiring.....bye
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:43 PM   #1099
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:44 PM   #1100
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Someone who is business savvy please tell me just how much does a one million dollar fine affect someone who is as wealthy as Robert Kraft. My brother and I seem to believe that for a business owner like that, one million dollars isn't really jack shit, but not really seeing / understanding that kind of wealth, i'm not 100% sure. My gut says it's no big deal for a multi-millionare guy to lose a petty million dollars...
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:47 PM   #1101
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Brady suspended 4 games. Losing 2016 1st round pick and 2017 4th rounder. Patriots fined a million $.

Tom Brady suspended without pay for 4 games of regular season
Patriots will win the SB next year, or at least go on another 15 (or 18) and 0 run. Belicheck will drive this into them all year long, how people think they win because of cheating/deflated balls. He will absolutely have the fill in qb ready.
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:55 PM   #1102
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Someone who is business savvy please tell me just how much does a one million dollar fine affect someone who is as wealthy as Robert Kraft. My brother and I seem to believe that for a business owner like that, one million dollars isn't really jack shit, but not really seeing / understanding that kind of wealth, i'm not 100% sure. My gut says it's no big deal for a multi-millionare guy to lose a petty million dollars...
Kraft is worth about $4 billion so do the math.

Either way nobody likes to lose money, especially those with a shit ton of it.
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Old 05-11-2015, 07:16 PM   #1103
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Based on Matty's estimate of $4B net worth, a $1M fine is equivalent to a $12.50 fine for someone making 50K/year.

There. I did the math.

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Old 05-11-2015, 07:21 PM   #1104
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I'm think its more about the NFLs integrity and rule tampering.
= setting an example for possible future wrong doers
I think the whole this is fuxxored.
If I was Brady I would tell the media in a polite way that Goodell is a giant douche bag and as a result of that.....I'm retiring.....bye
They never should have let teams adjust game balls anyways. Until deflategate I had no idea teams didn't always play with the same condition football.

According to a steeler fan buddy, the practice of letting teams tweak the balls started around 2007 with Manning and Brady demanding it. Is that true? (My friend does froth at the mouth whenever Peyton and Brady are mentioned, anyways.)
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Old 05-11-2015, 07:46 PM   #1105
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Based on Matty's estimate of $4B net worth, a $1M fine is equivalent to a $12.50 fine for someone making 50K/year.

There. I did the math.

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Old 05-11-2015, 08:33 PM   #1106
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Someone who is business savvy please tell me just how much does a one million dollar fine affect someone who is as wealthy as Robert Kraft. My brother and I seem to believe that for a business owner like that, one million dollars isn't really jack shit, but not really seeing / understanding that kind of wealth, i'm not 100% sure. My gut says it's no big deal for a multi-millionare guy to lose a petty million dollars...
Brady alone has made Kraft millions upon millions of dollars. That's pocket change for Kraft. But still, a million dollars is a millions dollars.
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Old 05-11-2015, 08:35 PM   #1107
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I would say Brady, knowing that the NFL was going to investigate this to the fullest and treat a deflated ball investigation by 1.2 psi like a multiple homicide, he just should have come clean and told the truth. The 4 games seems fair cause he lied, but the draft picks is just overboard. This was an individual, not an organizational thing.
it was an org thing. it's not like brady was doing this on his own. apparently it's been going on for a while per the pats plunge in fumble % vs the league average. how to you make up for unfair competitive advantage? draft picks seems fair enough. just my opinion.
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Old 05-11-2015, 09:21 PM   #1108
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Kraft is worth about $4 billion so do the math.

Either way nobody likes to lose money, especially those with a shit ton of it.
Actually, they aren't losing money.


Since Brady's suspension is 4 games without pay the team is actually making a net profit after the fine. Leave it to rich old white men to find a way to profit out of this.
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Old 05-11-2015, 09:29 PM   #1109
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Based on Matty's estimate of $4B net worth, a $1M fine is equivalent to a $12.50 fine for someone making 50K/year.

There. I did the math.

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I can count on Joe for some factual stuff.

Good work.
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Old 05-11-2015, 10:25 PM   #1110
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it was an org thing. it's not like brady was doing this on his own. apparently it's been going on for a while per the pats plunge in fumble % vs the league average. how to you make up for unfair competitive advantage? draft picks seems fair enough. just my opinion.
The team must be accountable for their players, like a father is responsible for their child breaking something at the store or the police chief takes the fall for the vigilante police officer. If you make teams accountable for their players, they spend more effort making sure their players fall in line.


Personally I think they could have gotten more - I feel this amounts to a slap in the wrist. The league should never have allowed Brady to play in the SuperBowl in the midst of the cheating scandal. Seems unfair that we do nothing wrong and get a $30 million salary cap penalty the day before free agency that set us back 2-4 years.. And yet the Patriots get caught cheating with major scandals twice in one decade, and lying about it on national TV -- and only get $1 million dollar fine and a few game suspension. Their division sucks and they still have every shot at making the playoffs this year.
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