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Originally Posted by scowan
.....I guess what I'm getting at is that turning RG3 into another maybe better Andy Dalton does not play to RG3's strengths.
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I agree with your overarching point about how Griffin fits in Jay's offense. But for me the issue isn't about playing to Griffin strengths the issue is that Jay's offense even at an optimal level isn't as good as Bevel's and having Griffin and Alfred and our receivers makes our offense potentially even better then Seattle's; which is very good.
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I loved how the Shananhans built an offense for Griffin to play to his strengths and it would have been great to continue it, but he doesn't know how to not get hurt and he takes too many chances and/or hits. So now we are left with Jay trying to re-invent RG3 into a pocket passer. Probably won't work but maybe they will prove me wrong. I sure hope so.
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I liked the Shanahan offense to an extent it was great in year one but didn't progress/expand in year 2. I think the ideal offense for Griffin is a more Baylor style offense like Chip Kelly which uses spread+zone read as opposed to base personnel pistol read-option.
In the Chip Kelly or even Seattle zone-read offenses the QB is better able to protect themselves when running which would help protect Griffin who remains a straight line runner more then a shifty/aware runner.
I don't get caught up in the whole 're-inventing Griffin as a pocket passer narrative' historically if you isolate Griffin's non-playaction passing attempts he's always rated higher then Kirk Cousins. So I don't believe Griffin's problems as a QB aren't due to inability as a "pocket passer" but more about his knowledge and comfort in Jay's offense and I put that as much on coaching as the player. Griffin's struggles last year are a joint failing in which the HC/OC/QB coach are also culpable.