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Old 08-01-2019, 05:59 PM   #511
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal

What will it take to get Bruce Allen fired?
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If the team does nothing his trade value will only continue to diminish. Best to trade him now. We saw with Cousins what jerking around does.


another Bruce “The Bozo” Allen debacle. Don’t worry. Bruce has everything under control.


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Old 08-01-2019, 08:07 PM   #514
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What will it take to get Bruce Allen fired?
The Trent situation is the closest we've come to seeing his firing.

Trent is beloved. He is elite, plays through severe injuries, and is a team and fan favorite.

If Allen is perceived to have blown this situation, it is a real possibility.

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God I was still very confident the past few days but this is beginning to get scary...

Any news on Donald Penn's contract ? We all thought that'd be very indicative of our FO's plan...
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...06e_story.html

This is the most detailed article I've seen written by an actual journalist on the matter.

The article suggests that waiting him out might not be fruitful.

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Ya know, after reading that article it makes you realize just how loyal he’s been to the organization, and the type of leader he’s been. If we lose our cornerstone player, the silver lining is this MIGHT be the thing that finally get Bruce Allen fired. That piece of shit needs to go ASAP.


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God I was still very confident the past few days but this is beginning to get scary...

Any news on Donald Penn's contract ? We all thought that'd be very indicative of our FO's plan...
I’ve been searching and still see nothing reported. Neither Spotrac or Overthecap have it either. I agree this will tell us a lot.
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I’ve been searching and still see nothing reported. Neither Spotrac or Overthecap have it either. I agree this will tell us a lot.


Maybe that’s why they’re keeping it quiet. Bozo Bruce doesn’t want people knowing how bad this really is.


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https://twitter.com/P_ConnerJr/statu...528043521?s=09

If this is true fuck us. Trent deserves to go somewhere better.

Also I have little to no hope this will be the final straw for Bruce. There's always a scapegoat to be sacrificed before it reaches Bruce.
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We will fuck this up
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I’ve been searching and still see nothing reported. Neither Spotrac or Overthecap have it either. I agree this will tell us a lot.
Yep, that's were I started my "research" too... I was wondering if anybody had some deep twitter noise or anything... (getting antsy ^^)
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According to Kevin Sheehan, they did tell him to get it checked out over the past couple years. They said it was a cyst and nothing to worry about, but he should still get it checked out.

I know what it feels like to have a cancer scare, a lot of people have been through that, but blaming other people is kind of an immature response, honestly. Dude needs to take responsibility for his own lack of concern. Instead, (if DHall's report was accurate) he is asking for potentially several people to lose their jobs, for not realizing it was more serious and urging him to have it taken care of (K. Sheehan).

I have a weird skin thing. Have had it for a couple years. My mom is an NP. I showed her and she said it's nothing, just a skin tag, but should probably get it checked out. Of course I had a dermatologist look at it. Now that's my mom, and not my employer's medical staff. She gave me life, she wants me healthy more than anyone. If I waited 2 years because she said it's probably nothing, and it turned out to be something, that's on me.

I feel y'all that this sucks. It's so fucking typical of the Redskins, but I can't pin it on the organization.

Now, maybe you could say that if Bruce were a better GM he might be able to fix this without overpaying for Trent to come back. Yeah, maybe... but for certain the reputation of the organization under his leadership makes it more difficult to smooth things over in this type of situation.

I feel for what Trent is going through, but honestly, if he's actually asking for others to lose their jobs and potentially hurt their careers irreparably because of his feelings, let al ok ne placing that guilt trip at their feet, than he's kinda being a dick... and I hate that'd this is happening, but at what point is his perspective on this going to be a problem in the locker room? Dude needs to go.

To finish my rant, I'm pissed to see how many people are so fucking willing to say fire these trainers and medical professionals they know nothing about because they want to keep their favorite player. That's super fucking ridiculous. If they're fired for performance, by all means, but not because the star player is blaming then for his cancer scare. They make not even a fraction of what that man does. He can go fucking console himself in his mansion for God's sake.

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According to Kevin Sheehan, they did tell him to get it checked out over the past couple years. They said it was a cyst and nothing to worry about, but he should still get it checked out.

I know what it feels like to have a cancer scare, a lot of people have been through that, but blaming other people is kind of an immature response, honestly. Dude needs to take responsibility for his own lack of concern. Instead, (if DHall's report was accurate) he is asking for potentially several people to lose their jobs, for not realizing it was more serious and urging him to have it taken care of (K. Sheehan).

I have a weird skin thing. Have had it for a couple years. My mom is an NP. I showed her and she said it's nothing, just a skin tag, but should probably get it checked out. Of course I had a dermatologist look at it. Now that's my mom, and not my employer's medical staff. She gave me life, she wants me healthy more than anyone. If I waited 2 years because she said it's probably nothing, and it turned out to be something, that's on me.

I feel y'all that this sucks. It's so fucking typical of the Redskins, but I can't pin it on the organization.

Now, maybe you could say that if Bruce were a better GM he might be able to fix this without overpaying for Trent to come back. Yeah, maybe... but for certain the reputation of the organization under his leadership makes it more difficult to smooth things over in this type of situation.

I feel for what Trent is going through, but honestly, if he's actually asking for others to lose their jobs and potentially hurt their careers irreparably because of his feelings, let al ok ne placing that guilt trip at their feet, than he's kinda being a dick... and I hate that'd this is happening, but at what point is his perspective on this going to be a problem in the locker room? Dude needs to go.

To finish my rant, I'm pissed to see how many people are so fucking willing to say fire these trainers and medical professionals they know nothing about because they want to keep their favorite player. That's super fucking ridiculous. If they're fired for performance, by all means, but not because the star player is blaming then for his cancer scare. They make not even a fraction of what that man does. He can go fucking console himself in his mansion for God's sake.

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I hear you, but lets not pretend that the medical staff has been stellar. Remember the Guice infections, even AS' infections. A house cleaning would not be the worst thing in the world.

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According to Kevin Sheehan, they did tell him to get it checked out over the past couple years. They said it was a cyst and nothing to worry about, but he should still get it checked out.

I know what it feels like to have a cancer scare, a lot of people have been through that, but blaming other people is kind of an immature response, honestly. Dude needs to take responsibility for his own lack of concern. Instead, (if DHall's report was accurate) he is asking for potentially several people to lose their jobs, for not realizing it was more serious and urging him to have it taken care of (K. Sheehan).

I have a weird skin thing. Have had it for a couple years. My mom is an NP. I showed her and she said it's nothing, just a skin tag, but should probably get it checked out. Of course I had a dermatologist look at it. Now that's my mom, and not my employer's medical staff. She gave me life, she wants me healthy more than anyone. If I waited 2 years because she said it's probably nothing, and it turned out to be something, that's on me.

I feel y'all that this sucks. It's so fucking typical of the Redskins, but I can't pin it on the organization.

Now, maybe you could say that if Bruce were a better GM he might be able to fix this without overpaying for Trent to come back. Yeah, maybe... but for certain the reputation of the organization under his leadership makes it more difficult to smooth things over in this type of situation.

I feel for what Trent is going through, but honestly, if he's actually asking for others to lose their jobs and potentially hurt their careers irreparably because of his feelings, let al ok ne placing that guilt trip at their feet, than he's kinda being a dick... and I hate that'd this is happening, but at what point is his perspective on this going to be a problem in the locker room? Dude needs to go.

To finish my rant, I'm pissed to see how many people are so fucking willing to say fire these trainers and medical professionals they know nothing about because they want to keep their favorite player. That's super fucking ridiculous. If they're fired for performance, by all means, but not because the star player is blaming then for his cancer scare. They make not even a fraction of what that man does. He can go fucking console himself in his mansion for God's sake.

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Bruce needs to be fired. Regardless of who’s fault this situation is, it’s been a nonstop cycle of drama, negativity, and turmoil under Bruce Allen’s watch. We’ve seen a massive exodus of staff, empty stadiums, one bad PR stunt after the other, and a losing record almost every year.

Bruce Allen is ultimately responsible for the performance of the organization aside from Snyder. Bruce Allen is the “neck to choke”.

Bruce Allen needs to go. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE has had enough.


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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal

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According to Kevin Sheehan, they did tell him to get it checked out over the past couple years. They said it was a cyst and nothing to worry about, but he should still get it checked out.

I know what it feels like to have a cancer scare, a lot of people have been through that, but blaming other people is kind of an immature response, honestly. Dude needs to take responsibility for his own lack of concern. Instead, (if DHall's report was accurate) he is asking for potentially several people to lose their jobs, for not realizing it was more serious and urging him to have it taken care of (K. Sheehan).

I have a weird skin thing. Have had it for a couple years. My mom is an NP. I showed her and she said it's nothing, just a skin tag, but should probably get it checked out. Of course I had a dermatologist look at it. Now that's my mom, and not my employer's medical staff. She gave me life, she wants me healthy more than anyone. If I waited 2 years because she said it's probably nothing, and it turned out to be something, that's on me.

I feel y'all that this sucks. It's so fucking typical of the Redskins, but I can't pin it on the organization.

Now, maybe you could say that if Bruce were a better GM he might be able to fix this without overpaying for Trent to come back. Yeah, maybe... but for certain the reputation of the organization under his leadership makes it more difficult to smooth things over in this type of situation.

I feel for what Trent is going through, but honestly, if he's actually asking for others to lose their jobs and potentially hurt their careers irreparably because of his feelings, let al ok ne placing that guilt trip at their feet, than he's kinda being a dick... and I hate that'd this is happening, but at what point is his perspective on this going to be a problem in the locker room? Dude needs to go.

To finish my rant, I'm pissed to see how many people are so fucking willing to say fire these trainers and medical professionals they know nothing about because they want to keep their favorite player. That's super fucking ridiculous. If they're fired for performance, by all means, but not because the star player is blaming then for his cancer scare. They make not even a fraction of what that man does. He can go fucking console himself in his mansion for God's sake.

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Good points.

Plus, that so called D Hall "report" that TW wants the training staff fired is wayyy overblown IMO, if you listen to the actual video , it seems more like some words thrown in there to illustrate his point than an actual statement, the next question is "Does he just not want to be here?" D Hall answers "I don't think that's the case at all".
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