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Old 07-06-2021, 10:21 PM   #1
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https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...r-Strategy.pdf

“In the last 18 months, my Administration has taken action to address cyber threats. We have sanctioned malign cyber actors. We have indicted those that committed cybercrimes. We have publicly attributed malicious activity to the adversaries responsible and released details about the tools they employed. We have required departments and agencies to remove software vulnerable to various security risks. We have taken action to hold department and agency heads accountable for managing cybersecurity risks to the systems they control, while empowering them to provide adequate security. In addition, last year, I signed Executive Order 13800, Strengthening the Cybersecurity of Federal Networks and Critical Infrastructure. The work performed and reports created in response to that Executive Order laid the groundwork for this National Cyber Strategy.
With the release of this National Cyber Strategy, the United States now has its first fully articulated cyber strategy in 15 years. “

It’s no coincidence that as soon as the the Biden administration came into office Russian based hackers have launched attacks against the country. I’d like to see Biden fight back. This isn’t Trump fault
Implying they took a break while Trump was in office?

The disconnect is unreal. Not only did Trump not once stand behind the intelligence community when they uniformly agreed Russia was behind devious acts, he literally said he trusts Putin more than the intelligence community. My man, it's shit like this is why I don't take you seriously. Trump didn't once say "stop raping us online" he literally gave Putin a jar of vaseline and asked if he wanted his ass or mouth.

Regardless, as much as you want Trump to be running shit once again, he's not. And so it falls on Biden to do more than talk tough to Putin. I don't have high expectations just because Biden doesn't seem the type to try and cripple Russia just because they're doing the same shit to us.

I also agree with Sunny, hope the day comes where cyber security is no longer a partisan issue. Every first world country has skin in the game when it comes to devious acts online.
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Old 07-06-2021, 10:47 PM   #2
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Implying they took a break while Trump was in office?

The disconnect is unreal. Not only did Trump not once stand behind the intelligence community when they uniformly agreed Russia was behind devious acts, he literally said he trusts Putin more than the intelligence community. My man, it's shit like this is why I don't take you seriously. Trump didn't once say "stop raping us online" he literally gave Putin a jar of vaseline and asked if he wanted his ass or mouth.

Regardless, as much as you want Trump to be running shit once again, he's not. And so it falls on Biden to do more than talk tough to Putin. I don't have high expectations just because Biden doesn't seem the type to try and cripple Russia just because they're doing the same shit to us.

I also agree with Sunny, hope the day comes where cyber security is no longer a partisan issue. Every first world country has skin in the game when it comes to devious acts online.
No more with the conspiracy theories…look to packing Poland with missiles, killing Russian mercenaries, multiple layers of sanctions against hacking activities and lethal weapon aid to Ukraine.

So continued Obama-like soft policy with Russia which was an abject failure? Don’t make me list the failures again. Also, yes Trump was aggressive with policy despite his rhetoric…that lead to a deterrent against Russia actions like these continuous hacking exploits.

Three already? Biden has to respond…this is fucking ridiculous. Let’s also note Biden gave the Russians a major strategy energy win with removing Trump era sanctions which allows first the completion and then the control of pipeline into Europe.

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Old 07-07-2021, 08:39 AM   #3
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No more with the conspiracy theories…look to packing Poland with missiles, killing Russian mercenaries, multiple layers of sanctions against hacking activities and lethal weapon aid to Ukraine.

So continued Obama-like soft policy with Russia which was an abject failure? Don’t make me list the failures again. Also, yes Trump was aggressive with policy despite his rhetoric…that lead to a deterrent against Russia actions like these continuous hacking exploits.

Three already? Biden has to respond…this is fucking ridiculous. Let’s also note Biden gave the Russians a major strategy energy win with removing Trump era sanctions which allows first the completion and then the control of pipeline into Europe.

Good too see you back in the thread moob 😵*💫
Where did I mention any conspiracy theory?

I agree Biden has to respond, but even if he sanctioned similar ops against Russia would you expect them to make a public statement about it?

"Yes we have authorized hacking ops to shut down Russia's oil pipeline in retaliation for their ransomware attacks" - even if we did some dirt like that they wouldn't announce it.

I disagree with you that Trump was effectively deterring Russia but I know you're dug in and I am too so we can skip that argument.
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