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Originally Posted by FRPLG
I read the whole thing
All three guys you mentioned weren't run out of town by Snyder.
Mitchell was dumped by the head coach at the time who thought he wasn't as good as the money he would be required to get based on his name recognition and veteran status. Snyder didn't get pissed off at Mitchell and get rid of him. The coaches made a personell move that ended up being questionable.
Champ was commanding a massive amount of money and the coaches didn't think he was worth it so they traded him and got some value in the form of CP.
Coles turned douche bag on us when Gibbs couldn't get him the ball because he was limping all over the field. He burned his bridges by attempting to manuver his way out which ended up screwing us on the cap. I think Dan had a right to tell him he'd send him a plasma to watch the games on next year. Before that no one reportedly had any problems with Coles so I fail to see how the FO gets the blame on that.
Actually I have never heard Marty bad mouth anyone so no I don't think he would have said anything. Doesn't seem like his style to go moaning to the media about how Lavar missed an assignment or two or nine.
The other players had different coordinators too and they didn't seem to have much trouble sticking to their assignments this past year. That's a lame excuse. If he has trouble picking up systems then his talents are therefore diminished in my eyes. Again other players stepped right in and got the job done while apparently Lavar didn't. That says a lot. I think it has more to do with Lavar's ego driving him to be blind to the fact that he isn't necessarily the greatest LB in the history of the game and that he does have flaws.
Taylor is in his second year and it has been admitted by both he and coaches that he makes mistakes. The difference is that Taylor seems to understand his mistakes and works to fix them. Lavar seems to want to ignore the fact that just about everyone in the know thinks he freelances too much. I trust when dozens of scouts and coaches say I am doing something wrong then I am probably doing something wrong. Lavar doesn't for some reason.
I'd like for them to patch things up and work on getting his amazing talents corraled and utilized here to the best of his abilities but it is going to take a monumental effort by all parties to repair relationships and I doubt anyone is willing to try unfortunately.
Lavar seems upset about a couple things that go beyond playing football. They are: he feels like much of the top brass don't respect him and have turned cold towards him. and he feels they have slighted him by shifting marketing focus from him. Well sorry Lavar but grow the F%^& up! First you file a grievance with the league because you think the Skins up and screwed you out of 6.5 million dollars. Now this grievance essentially goes to the top of the FO in one Dan Snyder. The same Dan Snyder who befriended you and did whatever needed to be done to kake you a superstar with millions of fans and millions of dollars. And you go and accuse him and his organization with trying to steal from you basically? It doesn't take a genius to realize that that is going to burn some bridges. He gets no sympathy from me on that. It doesn't make sense that they'd try to take that money out and it does make sense that his agent(whom he has stood by loyaly it should be noted) never read the contract. Think maybe there was a mistake here Lavar? Why go getting pissed at the Skins when they either made a honest mistake that they couldn't undo they way you wanted or your agent made the mistake and told you the terms wrong. Either way filing a grievance is burning the bridge. Second when Gibbs was hired it was obvious that the marketing scheme would probably shift a little away from individual players like Lavar simply because Gibbs was the big name now. You know that Gibbs guy did win 3 superbowls for the Skins. How many has Lavar won? Also Gibbs is a team first guy by all accounts and marketing individual players seems a little out whack with that thought pattern. Also again, he got freaking hurt and other guys stepped in and played well. They should get some recognition for that too and not have to sit and watch Lavar get the adoration while they were busting their butts. Get over your ego about the marketing crap and realize you are the one who burned the bridges with the FO Lavar.
I do fault the coaching staff for not handling this situation the best. I think lavar presented a difficult guy to manage and they totally whiffed on him. He needs special attention to keep happy because he is so emotional but I think his talent makes that special attention doable if you try. That is where I am disappointed. The coaches haven't done all they can to make this situation work and I expect better froma Joe GIbbs staff.
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everybody sees things there own way. right or wrong, not going to argue with you on that. but, Why would a guy who loves this town and city basically throw the guy that signs his checks under the bus. Besides that, he dropped the suit, but the NFLPA wouldn't. The Mitchell thing, I have heard time and time again that he was seriously pissed off at Snyder. Snyder made all the decisions on bringing in those players in 2000, not Norv. And when he signed Dieon, he said goodbye to Mitchell. Norv did not cut Mitchell, Danny did. I know that for a fact. Coles went to the coaches and Danny expressing his frustrations with the offense, then Snyder told him if he didn't like it, to sit his ass at home and watch the games on the plasma he as mailing to him. That sounds like a great person. Now if he said it or not, dont know. But agian, two sides of the story and we have only one. Bailey said he wanted to play for a class organization, and there had to be something there for him to say that. Champ never once opened his mouth while playing here. He was a class guy. He got fed up with Snyder and constant changes. Who wouldn't , especially when you are not winning.
6.5 million dollars, you make it sound like its a couple of dollars. You would n't be going nuts if someone left that out of your paycheck? I know its the agents fault for not reading it, but I think everyone here would be ticked off about that, if it was true and indeed was left out. None of us really know that either because I dont think anyone here actually saw the contract.