Any update on Campbell?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's kinda funny that last year at this time Brunell couldn't get it done period, now it's ok we were wrong yeah he can still play... but now he can't take the team all the way.

Do you think they can win a SB with Brunell as QB?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Do you think they can win a SB with Brunell as QB?

I really don't know, I'm not ready to say he absolutely cannot take the team all the way, and as I said in another thread I don't think it's all on his shoulders either.

Brunell's level of play seems to coincide with how the entire offense as a unit is playing. He's not a guy that can carry a team on his back, but when the offense is playing well he's a great compliment. Placing all the blame on Brunell when the offense struggles is a cop-out in my opinion. The offense as a whole struggled in the playoffs from the offensive line to the backs to the receivers.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really don't know, I'm not ready to say he absolutely cannot take the team all the way, and as I said in another thread I don't think it's all on his shoulders either.

Brunell's level of play seems to coincide with how the entire offense as a unit is playing. He's not a guy that can carry a team on his back, but when the offense is playing well he's a great compliment. Placing all the blame on Brunell when the offense struggles is a cop-out in my opinion. The offense as a whole struggled in the playoffs from the offensive line to the backs to the receivers.

I tend to agree but I think the QB position is one that simply can make everything else better. I do think if we put everything in the right place and everything goes perfectly maybe we can get to a SB with him and who knows what happens but I'd rather have a comprehensive solution that gives us a shot consistently to be a SB level team. Not just when everything is perfect. I know we're not going to get a Manning type QB but I think if we had a Delhomme level guy we'd be better off. The biggest problem is that I do think the long term answer is Campbell. At least I have no reason to thinks it is not. The question then is do we stick with Brunell for probably one more year or is there a short term upgrade? We probably stick with Brunell but I thinkithat probably "dooms" us to another year like this one. I guess I'd be ok being "doomed" to another a good year like this but I think we could be good enough to be a SB team next year and I don't want to squander it.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Brunell's level of play seems to coincide with how the entire offense as a unit is playing. He's not a guy that can carry a team on his back, but when the offense is playing well he's a great compliment. Placing all the blame on Brunell when the offense struggles is a cop-out in my opinion. The offense as a whole struggled in the playoffs from the offensive line to the backs to the receivers.

The problem with Brunell being a "compliment" to the offense is he's the quarterback. The quarterback is supposed to lead the team, and supposed to be guy who can make the plays when they need to be made. Brunell did that in the first Dallas game, and hasn't done it since. The only thing he did exceptional this year statistically, was his TD/INT ratio. His yards and touchdowns were average.

The problem, as I've said before is, Brunell isn't a game loser, but he's not a game winner either. I agree, that the offense and Brunell seem to perform about the same during games, but Brunell is the leader of the offense. That's why it's on his shoulders.

It's hard to blame the skill position guys when Portis broke the Skins single season rushing records, Moss broke the receiving record, and Cooley surpassed the most catches by a tight end, but Brunell came nowhere close to breaking any Washington passing records.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

The problem with Brunell being a "compliment" to the offense is he's the quarterback. The quarterback is supposed to lead the team, and supposed to be guy who can make the plays when they need to be made. Brunell did that in the first Dallas game, and hasn't done it since. The only thing he did exceptional this year statistically, was his TD/INT ratio. His yards and touchdowns were average.

The problem, as I've said before is, Brunell isn't a game loser, but he's not a game winner either. I agree, that the offense and Brunell seem to perform about the same during games, but Brunell is the leader of the offense. That's why it's on his shoulders.

It's hard to blame the skill position guys when Portis broke the Skins single season rushing records, Moss broke the receiving record, and Cooley surpassed the most catches by a tight end, but Brunell came nowhere close to breaking any Washington passing records.

That is why MB is the starter and PR is not, MB is not a game loser and PR seems to be. MB does not need to be a game winner, he just needs more than 1 WR that is a legit threat so he does not need to be pressured into trying to be a game winner. Lots of teams have won titles with "`1wont lose the game QBs", if the skins give MB the weapons he can become one also.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by irish

Lots of teams have won titles with "`1wont lose the game QBs", if the skins give MB the weapons he can become one also.

The only true game manager to win a Superbowl was Trent Dilfer, and that was because the Ravens defense gave up less than 10 points a game in 2000. Brad Johnson has passed for 3800+ a few times in his career, so he doesn't qualify as a true game manager.

I'm sure Brunell can duplicate his perfomance of this year, next season, but he's not going to play any better than that. He'll be 36 by then, and football players don't age like wine.