Abraham for Ramsey/picks still possible?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I would release him rather than get a 7th rounder from the jets, just on principle alone. But if it were me, I'd be patient and wait it out - things in the nfl change in a flash. Just think about what was going on just 7 days ago and then 14 days ago, I know there's a big difference because cba and fa starting, but my point is the nfl landscape is always changing. It's starting to slow down a bit, but that's kinda what we might want.

Things could definately change. The problem is that everyone knows we're going to dump Ramsey. There is no way we keep 4 QBs on the roster. Plus, the free agent market is flooded with FA QBs. Finally, the teams that really need QBs have either acquired them via FA or are in great position to draft them.

I'd prefer getting a 7th rounder over nothing, no point in shooting ourselves in the foot and getting nothing for him.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'd prefer getting a 7th rounder over nothing, no point in shooting ourselves in the foot and getting nothing for him.

I know it seems like releasing him would hurt the redskins, but this might impact business with other teams in the future. I would release ramsey instead of taking a low offer. That way the jets more than likely would not get him and it would show that the redskins don't give in when negotiating trades. I would also give a 7th rounder more value if the redskins had a better result with them the past couple or so years.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Ramsey obviously isn't as coveted as some of us may believe.

I agree with this statement 1000%.

But also, I don't think we should hang onto the guy any longer just to squeeze some extra trade value out of him. We should take the best deal we can possibly get, and if we have no offers come draft weekend, we should just release the guy and let him find a new team. He worked hard for us, he gave nothing but 100% effort, he took pounding after pounding in Spurrier's offense, and didn't complain at all when Brunell took over this year. I think he's been nothing but a class act. And while I don't think he's destined to be any more than a career backup in this league, I think we should do right by him. He got a bad shake here, we should just let him go now and let him sign on with a new team of his choice. He has earned that much from us, we should treat him with respect.

In fact, if all we're going to get is a 6th or 7th rounder in a trade, I'd say just release him instead so he can sign with any team rather than be forced to go to the only team that will offer a pick. Basically, in this situation, I think the right thing to do is let him choose where he wants to go. I think he earned at least that much just by virtue of his impeccable conduct over the last four years.

When you treat players with respect, the other players notice, and they'll want to play hard for you. They'll know that even if things don't work out in Washington, they can count on Gibbs to take care of them. Plus in Ramsey's case, it's just the right thing to do. It's time to let him go.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The market for Ramsey is getting colder by the minute.

At this point it looks like the Skins might get stuck having to release him.

Ramsey obviously isn't as coveted as some of us may believe.

With Detroit signing both Kitna and Josh McCown, and with the possible release of Harrington, the market is indeed getting cold.

Ironic that both Harrrington and Ramsey may end up on the market together.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

With Detroit signing both Kitna and Josh McCown, and with the possible release of Harrington, the market is indeed getting cold.

Ironic that both Harrrington and Ramsey may end up on the market together.

And I'd be willing to bet someone snatches up Harrington before Ramsey.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

With Detroit signing both Kitna and Josh McCown, and with the possible release of Harrington, the market is indeed getting cold.

Ironic that both Harrrington and Ramsey may end up on the market together.

I don't know, being pessimistic doesn't work with me. If it were up to me, I would be patient, but I don't think that's snyder's strong suit.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And I'd be willing to bet someone snatches up Harrington before Ramsey.

Yeah, unfortunately for us homers, and some may argue this, but I think the perception around the league is that Harrington may be a better pick-up.

We'll see...I think Ramsey may still end up in Oakland.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And I'd be willing to bet someone snatches up Harrington before Ramsey.

The one thing that I'm banking on and willing to wait for is fa to settle down. And then it coming down to no qbs equaling to ramsey's value and just one team needing a qb desperately, whether it be a starter or a 2nd string qb with some starts.

All it takes is one team.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

He got a bad shake here, we should just let him go now and let him sign on with a new team of his choice. He has earned that much from us, we should treat him with respect.

[snip]

When you treat players with respect, the other players notice, and they'll want to play hard for you. They'll know that even if things don't work out in Washington, they can count on Gibbs to take care of them. Plus in Ramsey's case, it's just the right thing to do. It's time to let him go.

yeah you're right, he should get that choice at the VERY least. don't think many will ever think Gibbs exactly took *care* of Ramsey, considering all Ramsey put into the franchise and how little he got back, a bad shake to say the least, but i suppose it is the rightest thing to do at this point. its way past time to let Ramsey go.

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by illdefined

yeah you're right, he should get that choice at the VERY least. don't think many will ever think Gibbs exactly took *care* of Ramsey, considering all Ramsey put into the franchise and how little he got back, a bad shake to say the least, but i suppose it is the rightest thing to do at this point. its way past time to let Ramsey go.

hang on a minute...i am as big a fan of ramsey as there is, but i cannot fault gibbs' actions now. he wants value and ramsey is going to be well paid this year even if the skins cut him..
after that, he willneed toprove he canstart inthe nfl. he will get a second chance, even heath shuler did. then it is onhim

[illdefined]

that debate is way past irrelevant now, the current debate is whether a 7th round pick constitutes 'value'.