Parcells and T.O

Pocket$ $traight · 04-03-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Daseal,

Our line will be better. We were trying to play with a FA and a Sixth rounder at our Tackle positions last year, it will be better.

Also, Washington can't cover Witten, just like Ware couldn't cover Cooley last year. LB's can't cover Pro Bowl TE's or Pass Catching FB's for more than 5-7 yards, they just do not have that kind of Ability. Your defense will have to do what people do against your offense, cheat/blitz/rattled the QB so he doesn't see Cooley/Witten open 12 yds downfield.

The Grim Reaper can cover Witten which he will do when he is not putting burgandy streaks on Fairy Glenn's helmet.

All of the 'Boyz fans keep ignoring the loss of Larry Allen which was huge. And I guess that Flozell on a bad wheel is going to pick up right where he left off?? I don't think so.

5RINGS · 04-04-2006, 10:49 AM

The Grim Reaper can cover Witten

Yeah Taylor can cover Witten.
So then Glenn gets one CB and TO is covered by who? Single coverage on TO? Okay, so really you Double TO cause it would be stupid not to and watch him beat you. He's not Just another Guy playing receiver. He is a game changer/Home Run hitter.

Now you have seven in the box.

Now Dallas tries to run all day. So you blitz, knowing if Bledsoe gets that extra second, he will find the open guy and if it's Glenn or TO it's gonna be six.

So Dallas finally has an above average NFL level offense. That's what TO does for them. I didn't say they were going to be the second coming of the greatest show on Turf.

Yeah it will be important for Flozell to come back 100%, but our Tackle depth now looks like this: Flozell, Fabiani, then the shmoes who gave up 500 sacks last year. That is wayyyy better than starting of your Tackle depth with a FA and a sixth rounder.

Yes we will miss Larry Allen but really he couldn't move side to side anymore.
He was on the crummy line last year and gave up his share of sacks. He is the Best O lineman we have ever had, but the niners are paying him 7 million a year. Jerrah thinks his money is better used elsewhere.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-04-2006, 10:52 AM

What happens is Springs covers TO with some safety help, Springs covers Glenn and our LBs are MORE than athletic enough to cover Witten. Our run support is top five easily, so there's really no worries there.

I think you guys will have a nightmare on your hands with Carter.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-04-2006, 10:53 AM

And honestly, I was watching some footage of Witten earlier, and Pro Bowl or not, he just really doesn't impress me. He has good hands, but it always seems like no one was covering him. Were his numbers good last year? I'm just wondering if people figured him out.

backrow · 04-04-2006, 11:06 AM

Whitten was the 7th rated TE, with 757 yds, and 6 TDs.

Cooley was the 6th rated TE, with 774, and 7 TDs.

Both are good. Cooley is better.

Stats courtesy of Yahoo! Sports.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-04-2006, 11:14 AM

It must just be the Skins games, but it always seems like he is a non-factor.

5RINGS · 04-04-2006, 11:27 AM

Witten was a Pro Bowl TE in 2004. He is the real deal. Your LB's can't cover him. The reason he is wide open is cause defenses cheat and try and cover him with a LB for more than 5 yards and he shakes them.

You can't cover any Top 10 TE with a LB. The new NFL TE is a set of skills that are difficult to handle, Big, Strong, Very Fast for their size with pass catching hands.

5RINGS · 04-04-2006, 11:29 AM

Whatever,
I don't want to go searching stats to prove this point. But Coaches dream of tricking defenses into LB one on one coverage with a top 10 TE.

sandtrapjack · 04-04-2006, 02:55 PM

Wittens offensive output suffered in 2005 not becasue of lack of production, but because of a rookie 6th rounder starting at RT and Adams ACL injury at LT.

Witten and Campbell were both kept in the backfield more oftern than not to help in pass protection, because of the lack of experience at the tackle postions on both sides of center. Remeber Dallas only has one FB on the roster who is primarily a special teams guy and was utilized sparingly on third downs. So the TE's were used as blockers, not receivers.

With a healty Adams and the addition of the seasoned Fabini, now Dallas will have the chance to put the TE's in pass routes and not on blocking assignments. In 2005 game films showed the opposition this and literally Dallas saw 8-man fronts on almost every play, since the TE's were kept in, that left only 2 or 3 guys for the secondary/LB's to cover.

With the ability to put Witten back in routes with a healthy O-line, now defenses will have to account for him and Owens as well as Glenn and Crayton. There is just no way D-coordinators can ignore this and will not show so many 8 or 9 mand fronts.

This will open up the run game a bit and the run game will set up the passing game.

Now I am not saying it will be the second coming of the greatest show on turf, but it should be more productive.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-04-2006, 03:08 PM

For those without run stopping ability, it might present a problem. I'm speaking on Skins only.

04-04-2006, 10:49 AM	#77
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: Parcells and T.O The Grim Reaper can cover Witten Yeah Taylor can cover Witten. So then Glenn gets one CB and TO is covered by who? Single coverage on TO? Okay, so really you Double TO cause it would be stupid not to and watch him beat you. He's not Just another Guy playing receiver. He is a game changer/Home Run hitter. Now you have seven in the box. Now Dallas tries to run all day. So you blitz, knowing if Bledsoe gets that extra second, he will find the open guy and if it's Glenn or TO it's gonna be six. So Dallas finally has an above average NFL level offense. That's what TO does for them. I didn't say they were going to be the second coming of the greatest show on Turf. Yeah it will be important for Flozell to come back 100%, but our Tackle depth now looks like this: Flozell, Fabiani, then the shmoes who gave up 500 sacks last year. That is wayyyy better than starting of your Tackle depth with a FA and a sixth rounder. Yes we will miss Larry Allen but really he couldn't move side to side anymore. He was on the crummy line last year and gave up his share of sacks. He is the Best O lineman we have ever had, but the niners are paying him 7 million a year. Jerrah thinks his money is better used elsewhere. __________________ I am a complete and unabashed Romosexual.

04-04-2006, 10:52 AM	#78
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Parcells and T.O What happens is Springs covers TO with some safety help, Springs covers Glenn and our LBs are MORE than athletic enough to cover Witten. Our run support is top five easily, so there's really no worries there. I think you guys will have a nightmare on your hands with Carter. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-04-2006, 10:53 AM	#79
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Parcells and T.O And honestly, I was watching some footage of Witten earlier, and Pro Bowl or not, he just really doesn't impress me. He has good hands, but it always seems like no one was covering him. Were his numbers good last year? I'm just wondering if people figured him out. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-04-2006, 11:06 AM	#80
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 73 Posts: 1,812	Re: Parcells and T.O Whitten was the 7th rated TE, with 757 yds, and 6 TDs. Cooley was the 6th rated TE, with 774, and 7 TDs. Both are good. Cooley is better. Stats courtesy of Yahoo! Sports. __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

04-04-2006, 11:14 AM	#81
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Parcells and T.O It must just be the Skins games, but it always seems like he is a non-factor. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-04-2006, 11:27 AM	#82
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: Parcells and T.O Witten was a Pro Bowl TE in 2004. He is the real deal. Your LB's can't cover him. The reason he is wide open is cause defenses cheat and try and cover him with a LB for more than 5 yards and he shakes them. You can't cover any Top 10 TE with a LB. The new NFL TE is a set of skills that are difficult to handle, Big, Strong, Very Fast for their size with pass catching hands. __________________ I am a complete and unabashed Romosexual.

04-04-2006, 11:29 AM	#83
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: Parcells and T.O Whatever, I don't want to go searching stats to prove this point. But Coaches dream of tricking defenses into LB one on one coverage with a top 10 TE. __________________ I am a complete and unabashed Romosexual.

04-04-2006, 02:55 PM	#84
sandtrapjack The Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,994	Re: Parcells and T.O Wittens offensive output suffered in 2005 not becasue of lack of production, but because of a rookie 6th rounder starting at RT and Adams ACL injury at LT. Witten and Campbell were both kept in the backfield more oftern than not to help in pass protection, because of the lack of experience at the tackle postions on both sides of center. Remeber Dallas only has one FB on the roster who is primarily a special teams guy and was utilized sparingly on third downs. So the TE's were used as blockers, not receivers. With a healty Adams and the addition of the seasoned Fabini, now Dallas will have the chance to put the TE's in pass routes and not on blocking assignments. In 2005 game films showed the opposition this and literally Dallas saw 8-man fronts on almost every play, since the TE's were kept in, that left only 2 or 3 guys for the secondary/LB's to cover. With the ability to put Witten back in routes with a healthy O-line, now defenses will have to account for him and Owens as well as Glenn and Crayton. There is just no way D-coordinators can ignore this and will not show so many 8 or 9 mand fronts. This will open up the run game a bit and the run game will set up the passing game. Now I am not saying it will be the second coming of the greatest show on turf, but it should be more productive.

04-04-2006, 03:08 PM	#85
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Parcells and T.O For those without run stopping ability, it might present a problem. I'm speaking on Skins only. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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