The Drop Kick

Redskins8588 · 07-01-2004, 09:15 PM

When I was in the 7th grade we had to write a research paper on any topic of choice, so I did mine on the game of football. One of my subtopics was scoring. While doing my research I found out that a team can score by doing what was called a drop kick. The drop kick is similar to a punt but the ball must touch the ground before the kicker kicks the ball. And like a field gaol the ball must go between the up-rights. I can not remember how many points you can get for this But I do remember seeing on tv a while back that Jim McMahn tried to get Mike Holmgrin(SP) to let him do it during a game.

Any how to get to my point of this thread, is this method of scoring for real? If so is it still leagal today in the NFL? Have others heard of this?

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-01-2004, 11:08 PM

I've heard of it and I believe it is still legal. the reason it probably isn't done is because of you never know how the ball is going to bounce and that's a huge risk.

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-01-2004, 11:43 PM

I hear the espn nfl team joke about doing a drop kick atleast once or twice a year.

saden1 · 07-01-2004, 11:50 PM

The game has gotten a lot faster and taller too. It is hard enough as it is to get a punt up into the air.

RedskinRat · 07-02-2004, 12:04 AM

If you watch Rugby you'll see guys nail these kicks from way out. I guess it's all technique.

x44x · 07-02-2004, 01:25 AM

the drop kick (kicking a ball after bouncing it on the ground; although rarely used today, it has the same status in scoring as a place kick)

Daseal · 07-02-2004, 09:04 AM

hrm, no real advantage I guess. Except you can punt over 50 yards, although accurately maybe not so much.

cpayne5 · 07-02-2004, 09:55 AM

You guys remember one of Matt Turk's first punts with the Skins? It went like 125 yds in the air, 10 yards up field, and landed out of bounds. When asked after the game what happened, he replied something to the effect of "well, a football isn't really a round ball. its more like an egg. so its hard to kick accurately". That's a professional punter's take on punting, so I'd hate to see the kind of accuracy they'd have if trying to kick it through the uprights.

SkinsNative · 07-02-2004, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins8588

When I was in the 7th grade we had to write a research paper on any topic of choice, so I did mine on the game of football. One of my subtopics was scoring. While doing my research I found out that a team can score by doing what was called a drop kick. The drop kick is similar to a punt but the ball must touch the ground before the kicker kicks the ball. And like a field gaol the ball must go between the up-rights. I can not remember how many points you can get for this But I do remember seeing on tv a while back that Jim McMahn tried to get Mike Holmgrin(SP) to let him do it during a game.

Any how to get to my point of this thread, is this method of scoring for real? If so is it still leagal today in the NFL? Have others heard of this?

SkinsNative · 07-02-2004, 11:25 AM

Jim McMahon of the Bears could drop kick incredibly well but never did use it in a game situation. There was an NFL Films episode about this a number of years ago.

Defensewins · 07-02-2004, 12:43 PM

A drop kick was originally done as a suprise move (on 1st, 2nd or 3rd down - not on fouth down) just like a quick kick. Usually near the end of a half or game, when time is running out and your team is only down by 1-2 points.
I would think the reason it is not done anymore is field positon. If you are close enough to consider a drop kick, chances are close enough to make a regular (more accurate) field goal or continue the drive and score a touch down. If you are attempting a real long drop kick and miss your team gives up valuable field position.

Defensewins · 07-02-2004, 12:49 PM

Something else very interesting about drop kicks I found on the web, I am not sure if it is true?

Because it's there, in the NFL rulebook. You can look it up: Fair Catch Kick. The receiving team may call for a fair catch and promptly attempt to drop kick a field goal. No tee permitted, the rulebook asserts. That legislation probably gets covered under the Carrying a Concealed Kicking Device bylaw, but the NFL authorities can never be too careful, ya know.

The late Dallas Cowboys coach, Tom Landry, is believed to be the last to test the Fair Catch Kick rule. That was in an exhibition game. That was back in the dark ages, almost before cable.

Riggo44 · 07-02-2004, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

If you watch Rugby you'll see guys nail these kicks from way out. I guess it's all technique.

Yea but there ball is a cross between a soocer ball and our football. Witch makes it better to kick.

07-01-2004, 09:15 PM	#1
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	The Drop Kick When I was in the 7th grade we had to write a research paper on any topic of choice, so I did mine on the game of football. One of my subtopics was scoring. While doing my research I found out that a team can score by doing what was called a drop kick. The drop kick is similar to a punt but the ball must touch the ground before the kicker kicks the ball. And like a field gaol the ball must go between the up-rights. I can not remember how many points you can get for this But I do remember seeing on tv a while back that Jim McMahn tried to get Mike Holmgrin(SP) to let him do it during a game. Any how to get to my point of this thread, is this method of scoring for real? If so is it still leagal today in the NFL? Have others heard of this? __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

07-02-2004, 01:25 AM	#6
x44x Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk Virginia Age: 49 Posts: 211	dropkick the drop kick (kicking a ball after bouncing it on the ground; although rarely used today, it has the same status in scoring as a place kick)

07-02-2004, 09:55 AM	#8
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	You guys remember one of Matt Turk's first punts with the Skins? It went like 125 yds in the air, 10 yards up field, and landed out of bounds. When asked after the game what happened, he replied something to the effect of "well, a football isn't really a round ball. its more like an egg. so its hard to kick accurately". That's a professional punter's take on punting, so I'd hate to see the kind of accuracy they'd have if trying to kick it through the uprights. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

07-01-2004, 11:08 PM	#2
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	I've heard of it and I believe it is still legal. the reason it probably isn't done is because of you never know how the ball is going to bounce and that's a huge risk.

07-01-2004, 11:43 PM	#3
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	I hear the espn nfl team joke about doing a drop kick atleast once or twice a year.

07-01-2004, 11:50 PM	#4
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	The game has gotten a lot faster and taller too. It is hard enough as it is to get a punt up into the air.

07-02-2004, 12:04 AM	#5
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	If you watch Rugby you'll see guys nail these kicks from way out. I guess it's all technique.

07-02-2004, 09:04 AM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	hrm, no real advantage I guess. Except you can punt over 50 yards, although accurately maybe not so much.

07-02-2004, 11:25 AM	#10
SkinsNative Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, DC Age: 46 Posts: 10	Jim McMahon of the Bears could drop kick incredibly well but never did use it in a game situation. There was an NFL Films episode about this a number of years ago.

07-02-2004, 12:43 PM	#11
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	A drop kick was originally done as a suprise move (on 1st, 2nd or 3rd down - not on fouth down) just like a quick kick. Usually near the end of a half or game, when time is running out and your team is only down by 1-2 points. I would think the reason it is not done anymore is field positon. If you are close enough to consider a drop kick, chances are close enough to make a regular (more accurate) field goal or continue the drive and score a touch down. If you are attempting a real long drop kick and miss your team gives up valuable field position.

07-02-2004, 12:49 PM	#12
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Something else very interesting about drop kicks I found on the web, I am not sure if it is true? Because it's there, in the NFL rulebook. You can look it up: Fair Catch Kick. The receiving team may call for a fair catch and promptly attempt to drop kick a field goal. No tee permitted, the rulebook asserts. That legislation probably gets covered under the Carrying a Concealed Kicking Device bylaw, but the NFL authorities can never be too careful, ya know. The late Dallas Cowboys coach, Tom Landry, is believed to be the last to test the Fair Catch Kick rule. That was in an exhibition game. That was back in the dark ages, almost before cable.

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