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Old 03-06-2004, 06:05 PM   #28
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Ok, let's use my analogy this time! You're going to college, a firm comes out and offers you 100K a year if you join now, however if you stay in college you'll only get 60K a year when you get out no matter where you go. I think that you can do the math here and figure out what you'll be doing. Money is a huge part of football, no one can deny that. Clarett isn't exactly a Field Hockey Player trying to make the transition into football, he's been a football player since he can remember. You haven't been training to be a doctor since you can remember.
First of all, the question here isn't whether I would take $60,000 over $100,000. That answer is obvious, but insignificant to the issue. There is no doubt Clarett wants to earn money. We all do. But we cannot sue prospective employers demanding them to hire us before we meet the qualifications of the employer. Secondly, your analogy doesn't make sense because no firm would offer more money to a sophomore than a senior who has had more college training. And it doesn't matter if I haven't training to be a doctor ever since I can remember. Maurice Clarett felt he was qualified to play in the NFL, the NFL disagreed. If someone said to a doctor, "hey, I've had one year of experience in medical school! Let me practice medicine, or I'll sue you!" -- according to your logic, the court should force the doctor to let them practice.

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If you get a court order to live in my house, I am forced by law to abide, you'd never get one because it's an unreasonable request, but it could happen. If you and the judge agree that you "deserve" to be there then you most likely will be there.
And that Daseal, is insane. I will say this for you though, you're consistent with this absurd position. By the way, I bet there were quite a few people who thought that Clarett's request to enter the NFL before he was eligible was unreasonable too.

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You're forgetting a key aspect of the Clarett case. THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS which you seem to be completely skipping in your analogies.
I certainly haven't forgotten that. Didn't you read the words I chose: injunctions, court orders, 'sue to gain entry'. I am not denying that Clarett went about his crusade through the courts. My contention is that the court decision is wrong.

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Also, you can demand entry into the NFL. They are a private orginization, this means abosolutly nothing. Golf Courses that are male only still have to hire females that are qualified due to equal oppurtunity employment. They can let females not play because they would have to be paying members which they can neglect services to, however they can NOT keep females from working there.
You're talking about two different things here. There is a difference between allowing Maurice Clarett entry into the NFL based on their own eligibility rules, and disallowing him based on race, color, national origin, sex, or age. The NFL makes its decision to allow athletes based on the number of years after high school. For most, that means forgoing their junior year of college. It has nothing to do with age, or any of the aforementioned civil rights or equal opportunity employment issues. The fact is, the NFL doesn't even need a reason to justify why the rules are the way they are. It could be because that's when the NFL decided that a football player has gained the necessary experience to play in their league. But again, it doesn't matter. IT IS THEIR LEAGUE AND THEY CAN MAKE WHATEVER RULES THEY WANT.

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Who feels Clarett isn't qualified for the NFL?
The NFL feels he isn't qualified. Says so in their eligibility rules.

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It's also the employeers decesion to pick up players or not. The NFL doesn't sign the checks, the team does. Teams don't HAVE to draft Clarett, teams don't HAVE to pick him up as an Undrafted agent. However he is talented, so they will. And you can sue for positions if you feel you were unfairly discriminated against. Same with jobs, people sue if they feel they didn't get it because of some kind of descrimination (age, gender, race, etc)?
Every team must operate within the guidelines and rules of the NFL. And yes, now that the verdict is in, some team may very well draft him, or sign him through undrafted free agency. I know I can sue based upon anti-discrimination laws, but that's not the reason Clarett was denied entry.
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