2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage??

That Guy · 10-04-2006, 10:08 PM

CP's done well enough to deserve the benefit of the doubt. on sanatana's first run, he blocked THREE different people (kept a DE off brunell, then ran down field for two more blocks for moss). You can't doubt that he's going at 100%, and he was catching up on moss EASILY on that play, so it's not like you can't see why he might get tired playing like that.

I see saunders point that portis can get you that extra yard that betts can't, and that you call different plays (less outside runs and more RB checkdown passes) with betts in, but really, you should NEVER call out for star after he he gives you that kind of game. This should have been kept in house. Boo on saunders. gibbs would never call out his guys like that. even when portis threw him under the bus he refused to call him out publicly.

Meast · 10-04-2006, 10:29 PM

Yeah, Portis spent his first two years here pounding the gut and power.
I don't think there should be any question that he would know what's best for his play at this point. What he said was very true, and someone just said it about Lavar, you get too pumped up trying to make the big play and you make a big frigging mistep.

Meast · 10-04-2006, 10:30 PM

It does sound a little diva-ish, though

hurrykaine · 10-04-2006, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Meast

It does sound a little diva-ish, though

In most cases you're probably right, but in Portis' case, given the frequent displays of the toughness he displays in blocking, I wouldn't question it. In a Parcells type world, you could see that egalitarian approach, where Portis "the player" would be subject to the same rules as all other players and would lose favor with the head coach for sitting out a play - but that's a different style of player management. Gibbs is different from Parcells. Gibbs knows what Clinton can and can't do, and is happy to defer to him.

Although, let me play devil's advocate and say the following: How many times in Gibbs 2.0 have you seen us sweat out the endgame because we weren't able to pick up a first down and run out the clock? Too frequent in my opinion. Given that our D is suspect at the moment, Portis should ideally not be taking plays off.

That Guy · 10-04-2006, 11:46 PM

portis doesns't take plays off and ends up playing like that first tampa game, averaging 1.2ypc when trying to run out the clock... that's really not a better solution.

he' done enough to earn trust, and he's still putting up stats. i'll take 10 years of this portis vs 5 of the other.

Pocket$ $traight · 10-05-2006, 12:13 AM

My only problem is that Springs doesn't have to play the G-men on Sunday so why is he giving them ammunition? Especially to a guy who can change a game when he decides to show up once or twice a year.

offiss · 10-05-2006, 04:26 AM

If the Giants are going to deploy a gameplan around Lavars behest, I will bet everything I own and can borrow on a parlay with the Skins and the over.

vaoutlaws2006 · 10-05-2006, 05:29 AM

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I can't quote exactly what LaVar said on "Inside NFL", but he said that he's happy to be a Giant because the owner and the coaches treat him right. He also stated that Redskins have no defensive scheme. Any respect I had of LaVar Arrington completely disappeared after seeing that interview.

I saw they same interview. the part about no scheme is funny. I think that only pretains to him...he played with no discipline. I cant wait to see Mike Sellers lay a block on Lavar.

MTK · 10-05-2006, 08:29 AM

LOL no scheme

Well I guess it's true to him. When you don't know the scheme, it's hard to say what it is.

That no scheme 'D' sure has worked wonders for Gregg Williams.

That Guy · 10-05-2006, 08:44 AM

the only thing i find more annoying than TO whining is lavar whining. at least TO can back it up.

dmek25 · 10-05-2006, 09:34 AM

i cant believe Dale Lindsey took a shot at Lavar. i get the feeling everyone that is on the redskins are all glad he is gone. and thatguy, what has Lavar done the last 2+ seasons? anything, but be injured and run his mouth? by the end of next season, Lavar will be out of the nfl for good.

That Guy · 10-05-2006, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

i cant believe Dale Lindsey took a shot at Lavar. i get the feeling everyone that is on the redskins are all glad he is gone. and thatguy, what has Lavar done the last 2+ seasons? anything, but be injured and run his mouth? by the end of next season, Lavar will be out of the nfl for good.

if you're asking for me to provide proof, i don't know why. i've already agreed that he's a very average linebacker since that injury, but no less whiny. I really don't think he merits nearly as much post count as he's consumed. I mean, it's not like we're devoting 300 posts to carlos emmons or even pierce (who's a much better player at this point).

jdlea · 10-05-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

if you're asking for me to provide proof, i don't know why. i've already agreed that he's a very average linebacker since that injury, but no less whiny. I really don't think he merits nearly as much post count as he's consumed. I mean, it's not like we're devoting 300 posts to carlos emmons or even pierce (who's a much better player at this point).

Seriously, I thought everyone was over LaVar being gone. Who cares what he has to say?

FRPLG · 10-05-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

the only thing i find more annoying than TO whining is lavar whining. at least TO can back it up.

Good call.

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Originally Posted by dmek25

i cant believe Dale Lindsey took a shot at Lavar. i get the feeling everyone that is on the redskins are all glad he is gone. and thatguy, what has Lavar done the last 2+ seasons? anything, but be injured and run his mouth? by the end of next season, Lavar will be out of the nfl for good.

I think Lindsey and LA hate each other. They had publicized shouting matches in the locker room after practices last year. I think Lindsey is the main reason LA is now gone. He didn't like him and couldn't get him to play the scheme and LA got pissy and then..and then... blah blah.

jdlea · 10-05-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I think Lindsey and LA hate each other. They had publicized shouting matches in the locker room after practices last year. I think Lindsey is the main reason LA is now gone. He didn't like him and couldn't get him to play the scheme and LA got pissy and then..and then... blah blah.

Yeah, I remember reading some things about Lindsey and LaVar getting personal during some arguments duing games last season.

10-04-2006, 10:08 PM	#16
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: 2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage?? CP's done well enough to deserve the benefit of the doubt. on sanatana's first run, he blocked THREE different people (kept a DE off brunell, then ran down field for two more blocks for moss). You can't doubt that he's going at 100%, and he was catching up on moss EASILY on that play, so it's not like you can't see why he might get tired playing like that. I see saunders point that portis can get you that extra yard that betts can't, and that you call different plays (less outside runs and more RB checkdown passes) with betts in, but really, you should NEVER call out for star after he he gives you that kind of game. This should have been kept in house. Boo on saunders. gibbs would never call out his guys like that. even when portis threw him under the bus he refused to call him out publicly.

10-04-2006, 10:29 PM	#17
Meast Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 116	Re: 2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage?? Yeah, Portis spent his first two years here pounding the gut and power. I don't think there should be any question that he would know what's best for his play at this point. What he said was very true, and someone just said it about Lavar, you get too pumped up trying to make the big play and you make a big frigging mistep.

10-04-2006, 10:30 PM	#18
Meast Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 116	Re: 2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage?? It does sound a little diva-ish, though

10-04-2006, 11:46 PM	#20
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: 2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage?? portis doesns't take plays off and ends up playing like that first tampa game, averaging 1.2ypc when trying to run out the clock... that's really not a better solution. he' done enough to earn trust, and he's still putting up stats. i'll take 10 years of this portis vs 5 of the other.

10-05-2006, 12:13 AM	#21
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 4,261	Re: 2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage?? My only problem is that Springs doesn't have to play the G-men on Sunday so why is he giving them ammunition? Especially to a guy who can change a game when he decides to show up once or twice a year.

10-05-2006, 04:26 AM	#22
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Re: 2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage?? If the Giants are going to deploy a gameplan around Lavars behest, I will bet everything I own and can borrow on a parlay with the Skins and the over.

10-05-2006, 08:29 AM	#24
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,012	Re: 2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage?? LOL no scheme Well I guess it's true to him. When you don't know the scheme, it's hard to say what it is. That no scheme 'D' sure has worked wonders for Gregg Williams. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-05-2006, 08:44 AM	#25
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: 2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage?? the only thing i find more annoying than TO whining is lavar whining. at least TO can back it up.

10-05-2006, 09:34 AM	#26
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: 2 ex skins on the Giants D equal advantage?? i cant believe Dale Lindsey took a shot at Lavar. i get the feeling everyone that is on the redskins are all glad he is gone. and thatguy, what has Lavar done the last 2+ seasons? anything, but be injured and run his mouth? by the end of next season, Lavar will be out of the nfl for good. __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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