Redskins v. Giants: Goat of the Week?

Southpaw · 10-09-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Taylor got abused by Burress.

More proof that as a team we completely stunk.

Taylor had no business being one on one with Burress. If he was THAT good at coverage, he'd be a corner. He's only on the #1 receiver when there's a blitz, and the blitzing has been horrible all season. He's going to look just as bad or worse in a couple of weeks in Indy, if he has to cover Marvin Harrison one on one.

Ed Reed and every other good safety in the league are at their best when they can come over the top in coverage and cherry pick. Having to stay stride for stride with a #1 receiver all day would make any of them look bad.

Twilbert07 · 10-09-2006, 05:32 PM

Can I vote for John Hall??

Sources: Kicker Hall on thin ice with Redskins

By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Despite converting nine of 11 field goal attempts in the first five games of the 2006 season, the job of Washington Redskins veteran kicker John Hall is in jeopardy, ESPN.com has learned through league and team sources.
John Hall

Kicker
Washington Redskins

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The Redskins, 2-3 after Sunday's road loss to the New York Giants, will audition potential replacements on Tuesday at their complex. One candidate to replace Hall is 12-year veteran Todd Peterson, who converted 23 of 25 field goal attempts for the Atlanta Falcons in 2005, but was not re-signed. It is believed former Maryland kicker Nick Novak, who was in training camp with the Arizona Cardinals this summer, is among the candidates invited to Redskins Park as well.
Hall, 32, joined the Redskins in 2003 as an unrestricted free agent, after spending the first six seasons of his career with the New York Jets. But the 10th-year veteran is frequently injured and only once since signing with the Redskins, during the 2003 season, as Hall been able to kick in all 16 games. Because of injuries, Hall appeared in a total of just 18 games in 2004-2005.
Sources agreed that, because some team officials feel they can't always depend on Hall from a physical standpoint, a change could be coming.
The veteran kicker did not appear on the Redskins' injury report following Sunday's game. But in the past, Washington officials have been frustrated by Hall's lack of availability because of injuries. He suffered a hamstring injury that limited him to eight games in 2004 and in 2005 played in just 10 games because of a quadriceps injury.
Coach Joe Gibbs said that, on Saturday, Hall informed him that he was "a little bit tired with his leg." That prompted the Redskins to use punter Derrick Frost on kickoffs, a chore he has handled in the past. Hall hit one of two field goal tries, missing from 42 yards. In addition to his nine field goal conversions, Hall has made all nine of his extra point tries in 2006.
For his career, Hall has connected on 203 of 272 field goals and 280 of 286 extra points.
Peterson, 36, is believed to be the most veteran kicker who will take part in Tuesday's audition. He has converted 235 of 296 field goals and all but three of his 341 extra point attempts, for 1,043 points. He has scored over 100 points six times in his career.
Senior writer Len Pasquarelli covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

Southpaw · 10-09-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Can I vote for John Hall??

Yeah, because it was that 17 point field goal that Hall missed, that cost Washington the game...

As far as the article, I can understand why they'd be frustrated with injury, but Hall is fairly reliable when he is healthy. If they cut him, it'll be a flashback to the Norv era when they went through a dozen kickers in two seasons.

Twilbert07 · 10-09-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

Yeah, because it was that 17 point field goal that Hall missed, that cost Washington the game...

As far as the article, I can understand why they'd be frustrated with injury, but Hall is fairly reliable when he is healthy. If they cut him, it'll be a flashback to the Norv era when they went through a dozen kickers in two seasons.

Hall can't kick off anymore. We need a placekicker who can kick FGs and kick off.

70Chip · 10-09-2006, 05:42 PM

It looks like the coaches agree with me. It is time to panic. Godspeed John Hall.

Perhaps this will send a message to the rest of these layabouts that it's time to get serious.

MTK · 10-09-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

Taylor had no business being one on one with Burress. If he was THAT good at coverage, he'd be a corner. He's only on the #1 receiver when there's a blitz, and the blitzing has been horrible all season. He's going to look just as bad or worse in a couple of weeks in Indy, if he has to cover Marvin Harrison one on one.

Ed Reed and every other good safety in the league are at their best when they can come over the top in coverage and cherry pick. Having to stay stride for stride with a #1 receiver all day would make any of them look bad.

You mean the same Taylor that has held his own against Randy Moss and TO?

I'd take my chances with Taylor on just about anyone. He had a bad day, but I'd take my chances with him on Burress again without even thinking about it.

61cad · 10-09-2006, 05:48 PM

The "D" on the field all day long!

No drives!

The "D" gave up to many big plays.

I hate to say " I told you so" but, LA put the hurting on Portis!

illdefined · 10-09-2006, 05:48 PM

That's gotta be Len trying to paint the Skins as a panicked organization. John Hall has seriously been the LEAST of our problems this season and unless he's really hurt, it would send a bad message to the team not a good one.

RedskinPete · 10-09-2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If I have to listen to Brunell bashing all week I think I'm going to puke. If you can honestly say that he was the main reason for that loss I'm sorry that's just a very ignorant view.

He wasn't the hole reason but it just may be time to see if the Kid can get it done! Campbell is younger,stronger and faster then Brunell. Other teams have moved on from old QB's like the Giants,SD and Look at Grossman for the Bears. Look at the Boys dose anyone really think Bledsoe is going to take that team to a Championship? Is Campbell ready???? Well not likely no. But standing on the side line will not change that. So if your going to Puke sorry. I like Brunell but time has passed him by and it time to see if Campbell has what we hoped he can be! He may not but we will never know standing on the sideline. By putting Campbell againts a weak foe this week would be much better then the colts. Everbody believes the line,Wr's,RB's and TE are good enough to win. If that is true and the man calling the plays is that good then it comes down to the man at the QB spot.

mike340 · 10-09-2006, 07:34 PM

Poor Brunell. You could tell he was FURIOUS because the plays weren't coming in quickly enough. I'm sure that stalled at least one drive in the first half. (And probably more.)

Also, you'll notice that Moss hangs out a lot (during game time) with Portis and Brunell. I don't think he would be doing that if he was upset with him (Brunell) for not doing his job.

That Guy · 10-09-2006, 07:38 PM

moss isn't a diva. portis isn't a diva (on the field). they do their job an realize b*tching out the QB won't fix anything. moss WAS visibly upset in dallas though when he was wide open.

I just want more consistancy (consistantly good that is), but who doesn't?

skinsguy · 10-09-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinPete

He wasn't the hole reason but it just may be time to see if the Kid can get it done! Campbell is younger,stronger and faster then Brunell.

Why? We're not 2-8.

4mrusmc · 10-09-2006, 11:41 PM

It's okay guys. We will look like world beaters against the titans. The titans? Are you kidding me??? And come the following week, we will look like puss against the colts. This season is going in the crapper. I'm sorry for being so negative, I just love this team so much. Damn I miss the 80's.

View Poll Results: Who's the goat of the week?
The O-Line for not protecting Brunell	10	8.26%
Mark Brunell for throwing 100 yards	17	14.05%
Joe Gibbs for not going for it on 4th and 1	8	6.61%
The secondary for not covering anything	23	19.01%
The entire team, coaching staff, and the color burgundy	59	48.76%
None of the above	4	3.31%
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10-09-2006, 05:32 PM	#77
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 60 Posts: 594	Re: Redskins v. Giants: Goat of the Week? Can I vote for John Hall?? Sources: Kicker Hall on thin ice with Redskins By Len Pasquarelli ESPN.com Despite converting nine of 11 field goal attempts in the first five games of the 2006 season, the job of Washington Redskins veteran kicker John Hall is in jeopardy, ESPN.com has learned through league and team sources. John HallKicker Washington Redskins Profile2006 SEASON STATISTICSFGAttPATAttPtsLong911993646 The Redskins, 2-3 after Sunday's road loss to the New York Giants, will audition potential replacements on Tuesday at their complex. One candidate to replace Hall is 12-year veteran Todd Peterson, who converted 23 of 25 field goal attempts for the Atlanta Falcons in 2005, but was not re-signed. It is believed former Maryland kicker Nick Novak, who was in training camp with the Arizona Cardinals this summer, is among the candidates invited to Redskins Park as well. Hall, 32, joined the Redskins in 2003 as an unrestricted free agent, after spending the first six seasons of his career with the New York Jets. But the 10th-year veteran is frequently injured and only once since signing with the Redskins, during the 2003 season, as Hall been able to kick in all 16 games. Because of injuries, Hall appeared in a total of just 18 games in 2004-2005. Sources agreed that, because some team officials feel they can't always depend on Hall from a physical standpoint, a change could be coming. The veteran kicker did not appear on the Redskins' injury report following Sunday's game. But in the past, Washington officials have been frustrated by Hall's lack of availability because of injuries. He suffered a hamstring injury that limited him to eight games in 2004 and in 2005 played in just 10 games because of a quadriceps injury. Coach Joe Gibbs said that, on Saturday, Hall informed him that he was "a little bit tired with his leg." That prompted the Redskins to use punter Derrick Frost on kickoffs, a chore he has handled in the past. Hall hit one of two field goal tries, missing from 42 yards. In addition to his nine field goal conversions, Hall has made all nine of his extra point tries in 2006. For his career, Hall has connected on 203 of 272 field goals and 280 of 286 extra points. Peterson, 36, is believed to be the most veteran kicker who will take part in Tuesday's audition. He has converted 235 of 296 field goals and all but three of his 341 extra point attempts, for 1,043 points. He has scored over 100 points six times in his career. Senior writer Len Pasquarelli covers the NFL for ESPN.com. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

10-09-2006, 05:42 PM	#80
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Redskins v. Giants: Goat of the Week? It looks like the coaches agree with me. It is time to panic. Godspeed John Hall. Perhaps this will send a message to the rest of these layabouts that it's time to get serious. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

10-09-2006, 05:48 PM	#82
61cad Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 296	Re: Redskins v. Giants: Goat of the Week? The "D" on the field all day long! No drives! The "D" gave up to many big plays. I hate to say " I told you so" but, LA put the hurting on Portis! __________________ DAMN YOU SAM HUFF, F****ING NEW YORK GIANT!

10-09-2006, 05:48 PM	#83
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: Redskins v. Giants: Goat of the Week? That's gotta be Len trying to paint the Skins as a panicked organization. John Hall has seriously been the LEAST of our problems this season and unless he's really hurt, it would send a bad message to the team not a good one. __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

10-09-2006, 07:34 PM	#85
mike340 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 68 Posts: 322	Re: Redskins v. Giants: Goat of the Week? Poor Brunell. You could tell he was FURIOUS because the plays weren't coming in quickly enough. I'm sure that stalled at least one drive in the first half. (And probably more.) Also, you'll notice that Moss hangs out a lot (during game time) with Portis and Brunell. I don't think he would be doing that if he was upset with him (Brunell) for not doing his job.

10-09-2006, 07:38 PM	#86
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Redskins v. Giants: Goat of the Week? moss isn't a diva. portis isn't a diva (on the field). they do their job an realize b*tching out the QB won't fix anything. moss WAS visibly upset in dallas though when he was wide open. I just want more consistancy (consistantly good that is), but who doesn't?

10-09-2006, 11:41 PM	#88
4mrusmc Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 55 Posts: 559	Re: Redskins v. Giants: Goat of the Week? It's okay guys. We will look like world beaters against the titans. The titans? Are you kidding me??? And come the following week, we will look like puss against the colts. This season is going in the crapper. I'm sorry for being so negative, I just love this team so much. Damn I miss the 80's.

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