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[Daseal]

Matty, a common misconception when people ask for a QB to be pulled is that it's because of the previous game. Brunell has been suspect going on 3 seasons now. He plays well in stretches (last season he played solid for a decent part of the season.) The first year was abysmal, and this year is heading that way without the abiration known as the Jags game.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Matty, a common misconception when people ask for a QB to be pulled is that it's because of the previous game. Brunell has been suspect going on 3 seasons now. He plays well in stretches (last season he played solid for a decent part of the season.) The first year was abysmal, and this year is heading that way without the abiration known as the Jags game.

In 2005 Brunell was 14th in total yards, 13th in passer rating, 9th in total touchdowns, 11th in interceptions thrown

In 2004 Brunell only played nine games so you can't really assess his play fairly being thrown to the wolves in a new offense (for him) in the middle of the season.

Since 1995 he's had a passer rating every year between 82-92.

Everybody complains that all he does is dink and dunk, but if you compare his yards per pass attempt since he's been in the league (6.95) to peyton manning since he's been in the league (7.65), I guess Manning needs to go down the field more often and take chances too.

Let's get off the Brunell bashing...PLEASE!!!

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Since 1995 he's had a passer rating every year between 82-92.

Everybody complains that all he does is dink and dunk, but if you compare his yards per pass attempt since he's been in the league (6.95) to peyton manning since he's been in the league (7.65), I guess Manning needs to go down the field more often and take chances too.

ancient stats don't apply here, and how many of those passing yards here were dinks and dunks turned into big gains by Moss and Cooley?

come on, this is the QB position we're talking about. when a team struggles, it's PART OF THE JOB to try and singlehandedly become the team's savior. it may not be fair to expect it, but its fair to wish for it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by illdefined

and how many of those passing yards here were dinks and dunks turned into big gains by Moss and Cooley?

In that case we should be discrediting Joe Montana and Steve Young. All they did was dink and dunk and let Rice and company do all the work.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

In that case we should be discrediting Joe Montana and Steve Young. All they did was dink and dunk and let Rice and company do all the work.

ouch another comparison to Montana? come on, i remember way too many Rice TD catches OVER HIS SHOULDER.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by illdefined

ouch another comparison to Montana? come on, i remember way too many Rice TD catches OVER HIS SHOULDER.

Tell me that Rice wasn't Mr. YAC.

In fact if it weren't for Rice, I don't think we would even know what YAC is.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Tell me that Rice wasn't Mr. YAC.

In fact if it weren't for Rice, I don't think we would even know what YAC is.

well, tell me Montana didn't heave it regularly. it's the ability to do both that opens up defenses. when you're two dimensional like Brunell (sidelines and dinks) you get schemed out of contention.

[budw38]

I agree with you mattky 72 . But ,,, Montana won two championships before Rice . If we were winning nobody would care about how far we threw the ball downfield . If this organization wants to win year in and year out , I think they have to stop overpaying for every guy on Gibbs Christmas list . Hope we start using our draft picks , I want to be competative for years to come . The season is not over yet .

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by illdefined

come on, this is the QB position we're talking about. when a team struggles, it's PART OF THE JOB to try and singlehandedly become the team's savior. it may not be fair to expect it, but its fair to wish for it.

No one can single handedly be the team's savior, that is why they line up eleven on each side of the ball. Wish in one hand, shit in the other and see which one gets filled.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

No one can single handedly be the team's savior, that is why they line up eleven on each side of the ball. Wish in one hand, shit in the other and see which one gets filled.

sounds er, poetic. but there are plenty of teams that are effectively one or two people. see Philly w/o McNabb or Westbrook for ex. or the redskins w/o Portis etc etc.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by illdefined

sounds er, poetic. but there are plenty of teams that are effectively one or two people. see Philly w/o McNabb or Westbrook for ex. or the redskins w/o Portis etc etc.

If you go back and look at the Eagles last year they were missing a lot more than McNabb and Westbrook, and it seems to me that Portis was on the field for Washington against the Giants.

It's a team effort, bottom line. It's easy to blame it on one person, and there are instances where you can.

For example, take Arizona's game week before last. All Warner had to do was get the snap from the center and not fumble it. He fumbled it and they lost the game. That loss is Warners fault plain and simple. But the fact they were in the position to win the game at all wasn't because of one or two people.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

If you go back and look at the Eagles last year they were missing a lot more than McNabb and Westbrook, and it seems to me that Portis was on the field for Washington against the Giants.

yeah and do you remember Philly's record? yes, Portis was on the field, and as bad as it was, he represented most of our offense that game. just remember our offense this season without him, it was even worse.