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View Poll Results: What Position Is Our Most Pressing Need? | |||
CB |
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42 | 40.00% |
S |
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5 | 4.76% |
DE |
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32 | 30.48% |
DT |
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15 | 14.29% |
LB |
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8 | 7.62% |
OT |
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1 | 0.95% |
OG |
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1 | 0.95% |
K |
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1 | 0.95% |
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One could defend Andre Carter by demanding that the secondary step it up and blanket everyone like they're supposed to. One could defend the secondary by demanding that the defensive line get the quarterback sooner. Neither positions are doing their job. I'm not buying into the notion that Williams is somehow holding Carter back in pass rushing situations. He only averaged 4.5 sacks a year in San Fransisco before being moved to linebacker. So his "mad pass rushing skills" apparently failed him there too, -- unless of course, the 49ers had exactly the same philosophy that Gregg Williams has. I find that difficult to believe. Andre Carter is yet another hideous miscalculation in scouting personnel by this front office. |
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"In 2003, Dick Jauron disciple Greg Blache told the media that "sacks don't matter" in the scheme of his defense, and his players backed up his words, finishing with a franchise-low 18." Chicago Bears Pass Rush Revival
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They're not asked to chase down the QB with abandon like some ends around the league are. If Freeney were a Redskin, you'd be wondering what the hell is wrong with him when he only put up 8 sacks. In a Gregg Williams defense, you know a DE is having success by looking at his tackle numbers, not by looking at his sacks. If a DE is controlling his gaps then he'll make plenty of tackles, keeping RBs from gaining more than two yards, and forcing the defense into second and long. If we had a secondary, we'd be able to blitz to get our sacks. We need CB SS and DT, our ends are more than adequate.
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Thank you.
My whole thing here is that Gregg Williams' system is still pure genius. It has worked for so many years, and still will. Perhaps he got cocky and let the wrong players get away (Ryan Clark), and injuries hurt him in his secondary. But the system will still work if he can get another good safety who communicate well with Taylor, if he can get a run stopping force in the middle of the defensive line, and if he can get the CB play he needs. Maybe that CB play comes from Springs next year, or maybe we sign/draft somebody, I dunno. But with those three things, GW will have us back on top. We don't need ends and we don't need LBs; at first glance the stats tell you that the ends and LBs are having down years. But that's more due to the weakness at other positions spilling over and affecting their play. It's still a team sport, even the great Marcus Washington is going to have a down year when he doesn't have DTs keeping linemen and fullbacks away from him.
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Salave'a has not been healthy this season and has not been the immovable object he was in '04 or '05. Golston has some nice quick little moves in pass rushing situations, but he's undersized and gets plowed on running plays. Put in a big ass DT, and all of a sudden you'll be praising Lemar Marshall again next year. He'll flow to the ball more freely.
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What about drafting DT Alan Branch (6'6", 331 lbs) from Michigan? |
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I agree with your previous assesment of GWs defensive schemes, but I respectfully disagree that it's pure genius. Unless he allows more flexibility with his players to become playmakers, not just Sean Taylor, I think it's possible we'll see more of the same next year. Maybe not quite as bad, but nothing like the '04 campaign. Think about it, we'll return probably 90% of the same group we've seen this year, so if the personnel doesn't see any significant overhaul, then it he has to tweek his scheme somewhere, somehow. Our defense has been on a steady decline since the '04 season, and I've long wondered if the rest of the NFL has figured him out. Since Williams has arrived we've consistently given up the big play. It's been the achilles of this team. |
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We don't need much tweaking of the scheme. It still works. We just need two or three players to solidify the weak links in the chain, and suddenly offensive coordinators won't have a place they can hone in on and attack. You can't blitz if you can't cover. And if you can't stop the run, it doesn't matter if you can't cover because teams will just run on you all day. If any changes need to be made, it's in GW's attitude. He needs to be more humble and honest with himself in assessing what he needs to make his scheme click.
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And in this year's draft there are 3 DTs that can do that in the top 10.
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