Defense let us down!

[jdlea]

Yeah, the D played poorly, but guess what? They do that every single week now. I'm tired of Betts getting a pass on 2! fumbles that cost them games this season. The first one was against Tampa that would have put them ahead. Don't blame Betts? If he holds on, they win the f*ckin game! If the D stands up they win, too, yes. However, we could also make the case that if the coaching staff calls heads on the coin toss the Skins win the game. Ladell lost the football game with that fumble. Period. If he holds on to the football we don't put the D in that position. So, I don't wanna hear, don't blame Betts cause it shouldn't have come down to that. It shouldn't have come down to the D needing to get a stop. All he had to do was not fumble, but what does he do for the 6th time this season? Fumble the damn ball! What does he do on the second potential fourth quarter go ahead drive? Fumble! Tell me about how much better than Portis he is now...

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Yeah, the D played poorly, but guess what? They do that every single week now. I'm tired of Betts getting a pass on 2! fumbles that cost them games this season. The first one was against Tampa that would have put them ahead. Don't blame Betts? If he holds on, they win the f*ckin game! If the D stands up they win, too, yes. However, we could also make the case that if the coaching staff calls heads on the coin toss the Skins win the game. Ladell lost the football game with that fumble. Period. If he holds on to the football we don't put the D in that position. So, I don't wanna hear, don't blame Betts cause it shouldn't have come down to that. It shouldn't have come down to the D needing to get a stop. All he had to do was not fumble, but what does he do for the 6th time this season? Fumble the damn ball! What does he do on the second potential fourth quarter go ahead drive? Fumble! Tell me about how much better than Portis he is now...

No debating with you who's starting for us at RB next season. Yeah, Portis probably wouldn't have done that, but I still think Betts looks great and our defense just plain sucks.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

No debating with you who's starting for us at RB next season. Yeah, Portis probably wouldn't have done that, but I still think Betts looks great and our defense just plain sucks.

There's no doubt the D is garbage, but they've been garbage all year. They shouldn't have been in that position. All he has to do is NOT fumble. His strengths are: 1. running to daylight 2. Going down when the first defender touches him and 3. Fumbling the football.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by jdlea

There's no doubt the D is garbage, but they've been garbage all year. They shouldn't have been in that position. All he has to do is NOT fumble. His strengths are: 1. running to daylight 2. Going down when the first defender touches him and 3. Fumbling the football.

No, the offense shouldn't have had to been in the position to have to come back and win the game for us. We had a stinkin 14 point lead midway through the 3rd quarter with our offense rolling, and then the defense gives up that long touchdown to Jackson on third down, and then another one shortly thereafter. If the defense could've made some stops, we would've won big. I mean whoever heard of Marc Bulger making a thirty yard run, ridiculous!

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by jdlea

There's no doubt the D is garbage, but they've been garbage all year. They shouldn't have been in that position. All he has to do is NOT fumble. His strengths are: 1. running to daylight 2. Going down when the first defender touches him and 3. Fumbling the football.

How many times has he fumbled this year? I believe its twice. You honestly have to stop with this "Betts lost us the game crap". He gave us a 2 TD lead and your still bitching about him losing the game for us, sometimes I wonder if people just bitch for the sake of bitching, because im sure you were arguing with friends last week about how good Ladell is, just shut up already!

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

How many times has he fumbled this year? I believe its twice. You honestly have to stop with this "Betts lost us the game crap". He gave us a 2 TD lead and your still bitching about him losing the game for us, sometimes I wonder if people just bitch for the sake of bitching, because im sure you were arguing with friends last week about how good Ladell is, just shut up already!

No, I never argued about the greatness of Ladell Betts, so read the site and get your facts straight! No, he's fumbled 6 goddamn times this season! What are you even talking about? Why don't you look up some stats before you decide to try to attack someone. And you know what? Clinton scores a TD on that play because he has breakaway speed...

Whatever, you guys are all right! 6 fumbles in one season where you've started upwards of 6 games should be totally excusable, especially considering 2 of them cost you a chance to win a football game. And if they don't, all of a sudden, they're 7 - 8 with a shot, albeit unlikely, of sliding into the playoffs, however undeserved it may be. So don't act like it didn't mean anything.

I've been consistent with my skepticism of Betts all year. How about you look that up before you try to accuse me of changing my tune.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by jdlea

No, I never argued about the greatness of Ladell Betts, so read the site and get your facts straight! No, he's fumbled 6 goddamn times this season! What are you even talking about? Why don't you look up some stats before you decide to try to attack someone. And you know what? Clinton scores a TD on that play because he has breakaway speed...

Whatever, you guys are all right! 6 fumbles in one season where you've started upwards of 6 games should be totally excusable, especially considering 2 of them cost you a chance to win a football game. And if they don't, all of a sudden, they're 7 - 8 with a shot, albeit unlikely, of sliding into the playoffs, however undeserved it may be. So don't act like it didn't mean anything.

I've been consistent with my skepticism of Betts all year. How about you look that up before you try to accuse me of changing my tune.

I honestly cant believe you think its ok for the defense too suck but not OK for Betts too have a mistake, it happens, even the great ones fumbled, the guy has racked up over 1,000 yards in half a season, Im not pushing for Betts to start over Portis and never will, but stop putting the loss on a guy that rushed for 129 yards and 2 TD, not to mention that was his fifth straight 100 yard game

I dont know if you know this or not, but the D gave up over 600 yards today, damn betts only if you could have scored five more TDs you wouldnt suck so much, and only if Randle El was psychic, he should have known it would have been heads, please just stop talking, your really making your self look worse and worse each time

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

I honestly cant believe you think its ok for the defense too suck but not OK for Betts too have a mistake, it happens, even the great ones fumbled, the guy has racked up over 1,000 yards in half a season, Im not pushing for Betts to start over Portis and never will, but stop putting the loss on a guy that rushed for 129 yards and 2 TD, not to mention that was his fifth straight 100 yard game

I dont know if you know this or not, but the D gave up over 600 yards today, damn betts only if you could have scored five more TDs you wouldnt suck so much, and only if Randle El was psychic, he should have known it would have been heads, please just stop talking, your really making your self look worse and worse each time

Really?! By bringing up stats, I make myself look worse...for the 1000001st time, I have never said it was "okay" for the d to suck. However, they do, the quicker that's acknowledged the better the team will be. Ya know why the Colts always score so many points? Cause they don't play defense! Does anyone think the Skins shouldn't take this approach?

As for making 1 mistake...how about 6? 6 goddamn fumbles! How about addressing that. In limited action. I don't give a damn how many yards he has when he fumbles away a chance to win. I'd just as pissed if it had been Clinton. 25 yards of his total came on 1 run, what goddamn good did they do? They gave the Rams a shot at the win. Skins4Eva is right, most of you don't make any sense...

[dgack]

Originally Posted by jdlea

No, I never argued about the greatness of Ladell Betts, so read the site and get your facts straight! No, he's fumbled 6 goddamn times this season! What are you even talking about? Why don't you look up some stats before you decide to try to attack someone. And you know what? Clinton scores a TD on that play because he has breakaway speed...

Whatever, you guys are all right! 6 fumbles in one season where you've started upwards of 6 games should be totally excusable, especially considering 2 of them cost you a chance to win a football game. And if they don't, all of a sudden, they're 7 - 8 with a shot, albeit unlikely, of sliding into the playoffs, however undeserved it may be. So don't act like it didn't mean anything.

I've been consistent with my skepticism of Betts all year. How about you look that up before you try to accuse me of changing my tune.

Betts has fumbled 5 times and lost 2, according to NFL.com.

Other RB's who have fumbled as much or more than Ladell this year: Frank Gore, Willie Parker, Shaun Alexander, Kevin Jones, Chester Taylor, Rudi Johnson.

Other RB's who have LOST as many or more fumbles than Ladell this year: Kevin Jones, Frank Gore, Willie Parker, Edgerrin James, Chester Taylor, Reuben Droughns, Carnell Williams, Tatum Bell, Zack Crockett, DeShaun Foster, Dominic Rhodes, Jamal Lewis, Brian Westbrook, Mack Strong, Shaun Alexander, Reggie Bush, Sammy Morris, Larry Johnson, Jameel Cook, Corey Dillon, Ronnie Brown, Fred Taylor, Ahman Green, Travis Henry, Rudi Johnson

Yeah, he sucks. He's a fumble machine.

[Redskin]

Originally Posted by dgack

Betts has fumbled 5 times and lost 2, according to NFL.com.

Other RB's who have fumbled as much or more than Ladell this year: Frank Gore, Willie Parker, Shaun Alexander, Kevin Jones, Chester Taylor, Rudi Johnson.

Other RB's who have LOST as many or more fumbles than Ladell this year: Kevin Jones, Frank Gore, Willie Parker, Edgerrin James, Chester Taylor, Reuben Droughns, Carnell Williams, Tatum Bell, Zack Crockett, DeShaun Foster, Dominic Rhodes, Jamal Lewis, Brian Westbrook, Mack Strong, Shaun Alexander, Reggie Bush, Sammy Morris, Larry Johnson, Jameel Cook, Corey Dillon, Ronnie Brown, Fred Taylor, Ahman Green, Travis Henry, Rudi Johnson

Yeah, he sucks. He's a fumble machine.

He has played less games then the others listed on that list, he is a fumble machine.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Yeah, the D played poorly, but guess what? They do that every single week now. I'm tired of Betts getting a pass on 2! fumbles that cost them games this season. The first one was against Tampa that would have put them ahead. Don't blame Betts? If he holds on, they win the f*ckin game! If the D stands up they win, too, yes. However, we could also make the case that if the coaching staff calls heads on the coin toss the Skins win the game. Ladell lost the football game with that fumble. Period. If he holds on to the football we don't put the D in that position. So, I don't wanna hear, don't blame Betts cause it shouldn't have come down to that. It shouldn't have come down to the D needing to get a stop. All he had to do was not fumble, but what does he do for the 6th time this season? Fumble the damn ball! What does he do on the second potential fourth quarter go ahead drive? Fumble! Tell me about how much better than Portis he is now...

You do realize were a 5-10 team right? Why do people keep venting like were a playoff team, we had no shot at the playoffs and we lost to a team that does. Ladell had one bad play and it may have happen to cost us the game, but i dont agree with you there, Ladell did more too win this game than he did too lose, he should never had been in that position to begin with, the defense continues too give games away, and for some reason Al Saunders doesnt understand that a 2 TD lead doesnt mean the games over, dont put this on Ladell because your pissed off, look at all the good things he has done.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

You do realize were a 5-10 team right? Why do people keep venting like were a playoff team, we had no shot at the playoffs and we lost to a team that does. Ladell had one bad play and it may have happen to cost us the game, but i dont agree with you there, Ladell did more too win this game than he did too lose, he should never had been in that position to begin with, the defense continues too give games away, and for some reason Al Saunders doesnt understand that a 2 TD lead doesnt mean the games over, dont put this on Ladell because your pissed off, look at all the good things he has done.

Well said!