Archuleta goes out talking smack...

#56fanatic · 03-23-2007, 03:52 PM

Arch was a probowler in St Louis for a reason. He was a stud at run support, and playing cover 2. I am not making excuses for the guy, but GW brought him in here, showed him game film of what he would be doing, and GW didn't put him in those positions. Everyone knew he couldn't cover that well, but GW put him in coverage ONE ON ONE mind you!! that is the responsibility of the coach to know your players limitations. he didn't get burned in ST Louis because he was always over the top, not ONE ON ONE. I have a hard time believing the guy "forgot" or couldn't learn how to play football with us. I think, putting him in the right position, he could be a very good player. He is awesome at blitzing, and playing close like a LB. the whole damn league knew he couldn't cover one on one, but GW's ego thought he could make him a cover safety. Why do you think people went after him time after time! I think he didn't get a fair shake from the stand point of what they said he was going to be doing. I feel bad for the guy, he wasted a whole year of his career sitting on the bench being punt team capt. (it reaks of the whole LaVar thing. Teams, GMs, media, football experts didn't understand why GW wasn't playing LaVar or putting him in position to be the playmaker everyone knew he was. ) sorry for the LaVar sidenote.. but its a similar situation. Both players fell out of favor and basically got tossed aside. GW has to put his ego in check and learn to use his talent in the way it helps the team. to use a persons talent. Arch may not have been good for GW's system, I believe everyone knew that. I hope Arch does well in his new uni - I am sure he will.

skinsfan69 · 03-23-2007, 03:55 PM

He could have said a lot worse. But the point I don't get is that is says he doesn't get beat alot. What's he talking about?

hesscl34 · 03-23-2007, 03:56 PM

He gets beat all of the time... just not always by football players... LOL

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-23-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

I hate him now... I'm burning down his house.... LOL

circle the date for the bears redskins game next year i will be at that for sure

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-23-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

I don't ever remember him bitching about being on the bench, I mean I could see it being others. I dont think it was Springs because he openly denied it and was offended that he was linked to it.

I guess it is was him, but you would think a vet like him wouldnt do something like that.

You'd also think a vet like that wouldn't even run his mouth at ALL after he got traded. Just say something simple about how it's nice to be in a new situation.

Warpath · 03-23-2007, 03:59 PM

He wasn't a good fit here but Im sure Lovie and AA will rekindle some of his magic. Im glad it worked out for both sides. Good luck and good riddance.

hesscl34 · 03-23-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

You'd also think a vet like that wouldn't even run his mouth at ALL after he got traded. Just say something simple about how it's nice to be in a new situation.

His ego won't allow him to be "nice"...

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-23-2007, 04:02 PM

Someone mentioned blowing above and I think the only blowing going on is Arch and himself.

For having such a crappy season, he sure did have a lot of nice things to say about himself.

Luxorreb · 03-23-2007, 04:25 PM

I think AA was an insurance policy if ST hadn't been able to play last season. Thank goodness that didn't happen and look for a return to glory from Williams and the Redskins D! AA can kiss my ass!

FRPLG · 03-23-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

This is funny...

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"I don't think there are many safeties who can do what I do underneath," said Archuleta, who made his reputation with the Rams as a run-stopper. "People like to say I can't cover. I don't believe it. I don't have a lot of interceptions, [but] I don't get beat a lot, [and] rarely was I out of position until last season."

remember when he should have cost us the cowboys game because he was out of position?

I was fine with everything he said but this statement requires some input.

He was known as a guy who couldn't cover coming into the league. He was known as a safety who couldn't cov er in STL. He was known as a safety who couldn't cover when we got him. And he was SHOWN as a guy who couldn't cover here. In fact he had the worst cover abilities I have ever seen for a safety. What makes him think he can cover? Just a completely unsupported confidence that eh can. Arch, YOU CAN'T COVER. It is our fault for thinking we could teach you how or put you in right situations but it is YOUR FAULT that you CAN'T EFFING COVER.

"I don't believe it"... Isn't the saying "seeing is believeing". I have seen it Adam and you sir CANNOT COVER.

TenandSix:Unacceptable · 03-23-2007, 05:28 PM

Considering how pathetic and depressing last season was, I would say that Arch´s ESPN article was worth the 5mil the team payed for his one lousy year. Great Read.

JoeRedskin · 03-23-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Arch was a probowler in St Louis for a reason. He was a stud at run support, and playing cover 2.

I don't remember Arch ever making the probowl, but I may be wrong. I thought he was a mediocre safety even in St. Louis.

5RINGS · 03-23-2007, 05:43 PM

WOW!!

Thanks for all the good tidings Redskins fans!!

#56 I have a problem with the notion of weak coverage as a Strong Safety. As you all know, Dallas also has a SS that has Questionable cover skills.

At some point your Strong Safety is going to have to cover.
I don't think that you can blame the coach for asking his Strong Safety to cover.

I also think whoever suggested that Arch was insurance for ST might be right...

JoeRedskin · 03-23-2007, 06:07 PM

Just double checked Pro bowl rosters from 1999 - 2005. No Archuleta.

I thought he might turn out to be a good signing for us - but, alas, he really does have the football instincts of a blind gopher. Good luck to him in Chi-town. When he comes back, just isolate cooley on him and watch how well he is "in position".

skinsfan_nn · 03-23-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Arch was a probowler in St Louis for a reason. He was a stud at run support, and playing cover 2. I am not making excuses for the guy, but GW brought him in here, showed him game film of what he would be doing, and GW didn't put him in those positions. Everyone knew he couldn't cover that well, but GW put him in coverage ONE ON ONE mind you!! that is the responsibility of the coach to know your players limitations. he didn't get burned in ST Louis because he was always over the top, not ONE ON ONE. I have a hard time believing the guy "forgot" or couldn't learn how to play football with us. I think, putting him in the right position, he could be a very good player. He is awesome at blitzing, and playing close like a LB. the whole damn league knew he couldn't cover one on one, but GW's ego thought he could make him a cover safety. Why do you think people went after him time after time! I think he didn't get a fair shake from the stand point of what they said he was going to be doing. I feel bad for the guy, he wasted a whole year of his career sitting on the bench being punt team capt. (it reaks of the whole LaVar thing. Teams, GMs, media, football experts didn't understand why GW wasn't playing LaVar or putting him in position to be the playmaker everyone knew he was. ) sorry for the LaVar sidenote.. but its a similar situation. Both players fell out of favor and basically got tossed aside. GW has to put his ego in check and learn to use his talent in the way it helps the team. to use a persons talent. Arch may not have been good for GW's system, I believe everyone knew that. I hope Arch does well in his new uni - I am sure he will.

And what year was that he was a probowler???? Looked from 1999-2005 NO ARCH? Where did you get your info?

They brought ARCH in to play many different variations in the GW defense, I'm sure that was explained very well to him as all GW defensive schemes can be complex....you HAVE to be able to think, WHICH HE CAN NOT. Whether it's cover 1, or man on man. Doesn't matter, you HAVE TO be more than ONE dimensional in a GW defense, or any system in my opinion.

And they finally did find the right position for ARCH, ON THE BENCH WHERE HE BELONGED!

03-23-2007, 03:52 PM	#31
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Archuleta goes out talking smack... Arch was a probowler in St Louis for a reason. He was a stud at run support, and playing cover 2. I am not making excuses for the guy, but GW brought him in here, showed him game film of what he would be doing, and GW didn't put him in those positions. Everyone knew he couldn't cover that well, but GW put him in coverage ONE ON ONE mind you!! that is the responsibility of the coach to know your players limitations. he didn't get burned in ST Louis because he was always over the top, not ONE ON ONE. I have a hard time believing the guy "forgot" or couldn't learn how to play football with us. I think, putting him in the right position, he could be a very good player. He is awesome at blitzing, and playing close like a LB. the whole damn league knew he couldn't cover one on one, but GW's ego thought he could make him a cover safety. Why do you think people went after him time after time! I think he didn't get a fair shake from the stand point of what they said he was going to be doing. I feel bad for the guy, he wasted a whole year of his career sitting on the bench being punt team capt. (it reaks of the whole LaVar thing. Teams, GMs, media, football experts didn't understand why GW wasn't playing LaVar or putting him in position to be the playmaker everyone knew he was. ) sorry for the LaVar sidenote.. but its a similar situation. Both players fell out of favor and basically got tossed aside. GW has to put his ego in check and learn to use his talent in the way it helps the team. to use a persons talent. Arch may not have been good for GW's system, I believe everyone knew that. I hope Arch does well in his new uni - I am sure he will.

03-23-2007, 03:55 PM	#32
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,591	Re: Archuleta goes out talking smack... He could have said a lot worse. But the point I don't get is that is says he doesn't get beat alot. What's he talking about?

03-23-2007, 03:56 PM	#33
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: Archuleta goes out talking smack... He gets beat all of the time... just not always by football players... LOL

03-23-2007, 03:59 PM	#36
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 50 Posts: 1,762	Re: Archuleta goes out talking smack... He wasn't a good fit here but Im sure Lovie and AA will rekindle some of his magic. Im glad it worked out for both sides. Good luck and good riddance.

03-23-2007, 04:02 PM	#38
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Archuleta goes out talking smack... Someone mentioned blowing above and I think the only blowing going on is Arch and himself. For having such a crappy season, he sure did have a lot of nice things to say about himself. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-23-2007, 04:25 PM	#39
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 54 Posts: 1,630	Re: Archuleta goes out talking smack... I think AA was an insurance policy if ST hadn't been able to play last season. Thank goodness that didn't happen and look for a return to glory from Williams and the Redskins D! AA can kiss my ass! __________________ ^21^

03-23-2007, 05:28 PM	#41
TenandSix:Unacceptable Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 331	Re: Archuleta goes out talking smack... Considering how pathetic and depressing last season was, I would say that Arch´s ESPN article was worth the 5mil the team payed for his one lousy year. Great Read.

03-23-2007, 05:43 PM	#43
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: Archuleta goes out talking smack... WOW!! Thanks for all the good tidings Redskins fans!! #56 I have a problem with the notion of weak coverage as a Strong Safety. As you all know, Dallas also has a SS that has Questionable cover skills. At some point your Strong Safety is going to have to cover. I don't think that you can blame the coach for asking his Strong Safety to cover. I also think whoever suggested that Arch was insurance for ST might be right... __________________ I am a complete and unabashed Romosexual.

03-23-2007, 06:07 PM	#44
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	Re: Archuleta goes out talking smack... Just double checked Pro bowl rosters from 1999 - 2005. No Archuleta. I thought he might turn out to be a good signing for us - but, alas, he really does have the football instincts of a blind gopher. Good luck to him in Chi-town. When he comes back, just isolate cooley on him and watch how well he is "in position". __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

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