6 WEEKS AGO: Trade Ramsey, Bench/trade Gardner

[That Guy]

We lost because of 3 INTS in the 2 half of this game.

no, we lost when the giants put up 17 points on brunell and portis in the first half, ramsey just didn't win it...

ramsey, in his last 12 games has thrown 15 TDs and 12 ints... in five games hasselbeck has thrown 5 TDs and 1 INT... that's less TDs and more INTs per game

if ramsey is bad, hasselbeck is horrible...

1.More NFL experience that Ramsey. (Throws the ball away)
2. Hasselbeck's first game as a Redskin was a victory over the Dolphins. He replaced Ramsey against a hostile Miami crowd and won.
3. Gibbs asked the question in training camp, who's that guy making those passes? He then said, we may have 3 QB's fighting for 1# spot.

1. not true
2. so what? ramsey has won games too, and besides, tim lost that game
3. he may have said that, but guess what? after that 2 int game, timmy fell back out of that competition... he never played 1st string anyways (which is harder )

5.Plays with passion. Unlike Ramsey, who looks like he's not enjoying his opportunity that few people have the priviledge to enjoy.
6. Can motivate this team to execute with confidence out of the huddle.

those are both BS, you're not in the huddle and you don't talk to them, so you don't know, sorry.

You thought Ramsey was going to grow into a great player like Tom Brady, Joey Harrington or Carson Palmer

this was quoted to matty, but joey spent a lot of time sucking before he was worth looking at, and carson sat out an entire year in his system before playing... ramsey has sat out 1 game.

shane, trading ramsey would have left us with no recourse in the event that tim also sucked... we'd be even worse off...

manning went 3-13 his first year in a new system... its not something you pick up overnight... there's no promise tim will be any better at all, so trading away depth at QB would be silly... part of the problem is the massive turnover and new systems etc, it takes time for everyone to click... its hard when all the WRs practice and get rhythm with another QB and then you get shoved in to take over and make something happen... chemistry isn't made overnight (thats for the players and the system)...

PR telegraphs plays and hold on to the ball too long, but tim has a weak arm and throws more ints and less TDs... everytime you switch out players, it just makes it harder on everyone to try and keep everything together.