BREAKING NEWS: Vick to Enter Guilty Plea

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

I agree dogfighting is despicable, but unfortunately the only people who know what happened at that ranch are those four guys charged. Vick has pleaded guilty, and will be punished for his actions. Is banning him for life really necessary? Vick will go to jail and be suspended by the NFL, and he will never be able to recoup what he once had. Seems like punishment enough to me, he'll forever be associated with dogfighting, but is the enemy Mike Vick or dogfighting?

Oh please dude that's bullshit. There's alot of people that know his level of involvement like his buddies that sang like birds, THE FEDS, and HIMSELF! He plead quilty becauce his dumb ass was!

NO RACE CARD NEEDED! I hope they hammer his ass to the full extent of the law.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Oh please dude that's bullshit. There's alot of people that know his level of involvement like his buddies that sang like birds, THE FEDS, and HIMSELF! I plead quilty becauce his dumb ass was!

NO RACE CARD NEEDED! I hope they hammer his ass to the full extent of the law.

I do too, and it appears that they will. But go after all dogfighters, not just Vick. I will never believe that he's the first or last professional athlete or celebrity involved in this admittedly heinous act. And I certainly don't believe everything in that indictment, the Tuskegee Airmen, Jena 6, INTELPRO, and a littany of other events have conditioned me to distrust the government. I'm not defending Vick, I am saying that the calls for him to be banned for life do smell of racism. There, no more thinly veiled calls, is that better?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

I do too, and it appears that they will. But go after all dogfighters, not just Vick. I will never believe that he's the first or last professional athlete or celebrity involved in this admittedly heinous act. And I certainly don't believe everything in that indictment, the Tuskegee Airmen, Jena 6, INTELPRO, and a littany of other events have conditioned me to distrust the government. I'm not defending Vick, I am saying that the calls for him to be banned for life do smell of racism. There, no more thinly veiled calls, is that better?

Paying the price for dogfighting is color blind

I think that had Vick gone to trial then a lot of names, famous names, would be revealed and that wouldn't do any one any good. Vick might be taking the fall for a lot of people beyond himself but....life sucks.

I actually met several of the Tuskegee Airmen a few years back. That was pretty sweet

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Paying the price for dogfighting is color blind

I think that had Vick gone to trial then a lot of names, famous names, would be revealed and that wouldn't do any one any good. Vick might be taking the fall for a lot of people beyond himself but....life sucks.

I actually met several of the Tuskegee Airmen a few years back. That was pretty sweet

Never said the punishment was based on color. The calls for him to be banned for life, uh yeah.

[SmootSmack]

Must have misunderstood you.

But anyhow, I never understood why Vick has always been such a posterboy for racism. I mean even dating back to the days when all we talked about was how he wasn't nearly living up to his potential playing QB, there was all this talk of "You only say that because he's Black." What's up with that?

It's a shame we can't freely criticize him the way we can with just about any other QB without fear of retribution.

I don't know, maybe it's only here on this site (thank you ST21!) that I see this, but it seems kind of ridiculous.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I actually met several of the Tuskegee Airmen a few years back. That was pretty sweet

I figured you for more of a navy guy... oh come on, I'm just kidding.

[BigSKINBauer]

I still find it ironic that dogs that didn't have enough 'courage' to fight were brutally killed but the first chance vick has at sucking out and taking a plea deal he does. The details of the stories just make it worse. The fights were just part of it. The killings of dogs that didn't do well in 'test fights' is another. I hope that the judge sticks with his reputation as being a hard ass sticks it to vick. I hope he shatters that 12-18 month recommendation. I and many others will be upset unless he serves 4 years. Most won't be happy unless he spends many many more. Its unfortunate it is barred to 5 years. I really hope the judge uses his discretion.

Also good work on the lawyers part to get vick out of gambling charges so the nfl won't have a problem with that. How the f... can you convince anyone that he trained, killed, and fought dogs at HIS HOUSE and did not receive any of the money flowing in and did not gamble on his dogs. Disgusting.