Smooooot Nooooooo

DGreene28 · 09-09-2007, 08:58 PM

85% chance Smoot gets hurt this year and misses multiple games. He cannot tackle the way Springs and Rogers do. ANd he has hands as bad as Rogers@!

skinsguy · 09-09-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Of course it's not a good thing. What I'm saying is our problem last year didn't seem to be being in position to make the INT, it was not capitalizing on the good position.

Rogers and Smoot both need to step up. No question

I can agree with that.

Southpaw · 09-09-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

You guys are acting like Rogers played well today. He sucks ass and a huge liability.

Rogers doesn't "suck ass". He didn't have a great game, but the interference call was BS. Other than that, Green only threw at him a few times today.

Smoot on the other hand, got nickel and dimed all friggin day, and dropped a likely game winning pick.

Pocket$ $traight · 09-09-2007, 11:32 PM

He looked awful. I want the Washington Fred Smoot not the Minnesota Fred Smoot.

GTripp0012 · 09-09-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

Rogers doesn't "suck ass". He didn't have a great game, but the interference call was BS. Other than that, Green only threw at him a few times today.

Smoot on the other hand, got nickel and dimed all friggin day, and dropped a likely game winning pick.

Rogers came up and made some nice tackles, which is the strength of his game. He's just still a below average cover guy.

He deserves credit for taking care of his man most of the time, but in the NFL we really need more of that from him. He's still getting beat far too much for comfort.

TenandSix:Unacceptable · 09-10-2007, 02:55 AM

I practically crapped myself on the INT drop. Other than that, corners are going to give up some plays, it's the nature of the position. All in all our CB's seemed to be in bend don't break mode. I must say that I am shocked at SS not starting. What's the dilly yo?

Manusky91 · 09-10-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Rogers came up and made some nice tackles, which is the strength of his game. He's just still a below average cover guy.

He deserves credit for taking care of his man most of the time, but in the NFL we really need more of that from him. He's still getting beat far too much for comfort.

That's why I think Springs and Smoot should start. Let Rogers play nickel.

Southpaw · 09-10-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Manusky91

That's why I think Springs and Smoot should start. Let Rogers play nickel.

I'm still not sure what people are expecting from Rogers. He's not Champ Bailey, but no one is. It's completely irrational to expect any corner in the league to give up zero pass completions.

And what exactly did Fred Smoot do today to outplay Rogers? Half of the Dolphins offense resulted from pass completions to Fred Smoots side.

GTripp0012 · 09-10-2007, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

I'm still not sure what people are expecting from Rogers. He's not Champ Bailey, but no one is. It's completely irrational to expect any corner in the league to give up zero pass completions.

And what exactly did Fred Smoot do today to outplay Rogers? Half of the Dolphins offense resulted from pass completions to Fred Smoots side.

Well, Rogers and Springs are still the best corners on this roster. It'd be nice to see Carlos get a lot more aggressive so we can finally see what we have in him. This 80 yard cushion stuff isn't going to cut it next year when Springs isn't around.

And if this is a schematic thing, boy those LBs better start hauling ass into that curl zone if we want to win this year.

dmek25 · 09-10-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I didn't even realize Springs didn't start today. Crazy. He should always be starting if healthy. I think some people expect Smoot to be better than he really is. He, like Rogers, is a solid #2/#3 CB but he's not elite. Still...he's gotta play better than he did today. A lot of people do. I'll take the win though

And do we even have Fisher?

i totally agree. smoot is a good 3rd corner. a good team player, and a good tackler. not a bad part of a defense as a 3rd corner. period. a 3rd corner

firstdown · 09-10-2007, 01:25 PM

Fred Smoot lead our team with int's just about every year when he was playing beside Champ so its not like him to drop those kinds of passes.

Manusky91 · 09-10-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

I'm still not sure what people are expecting from Rogers. He's not Champ Bailey, but no one is. It's completely irrational to expect any corner in the league to give up zero pass completions.

And what exactly did Fred Smoot do today to outplay Rogers? Half of the Dolphins offense resulted from pass completions to Fred Smoots side.

You're not sure what people are expecting from Rogers? People are expecting him to play like a first round draft choice that has the experience now to be better than mediocre. He picked up right where he left off last year...burnt toast.

As for Smoot, you're right, unfortunately he did not outplay Rogers. I just think he's shown more in his career to start over Rogers at this point.

mheisig · 09-10-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Manusky91

You're not sure what people are expecting from Rogers? People are expecting him to play like a first round draft choice that has the experience now to be better than mediocre. He picked up right where he left off last year...burnt toast.

As for Smoot, you're right, unfortunately he did not outplay Rogers. I just think he's shown more in his career to start over Rogers at this point.

The Smoot vs. Rogers debate makes sense to me. Smoot has a little more experience, Rogers has youth and athletic ability, that whole position battle makes sense to me as a close one.

Smoot vs. Springs is the mind-blowing battle. How the HELL did Smoot start over Springs? How was this not addressed in any press conferences? I saw it mentioned in a Washington Post article but that was it.

Starting Smoot over Springs if Springs isn't injured makes as much sense as starting Prielou over Taylor, or grabbing some practice squad dude and having him take over for Fletcher. The whole thing is incomprehensible to me.

killromo · 09-10-2007, 06:03 PM

smoot is a mouthy bum. nobody would even know who he was if he didn't run his jaws, a la deion sanders, or for his hooker boat. At least deion was good at one point (although not for us). I was saddened when he came back to town. bring back champ or d.green for that matter; shut down corners with class!

09-09-2007, 08:58 PM	#31
DGreene28 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 335	Re: Smooooot Nooooooo 85% chance Smoot gets hurt this year and misses multiple games. He cannot tackle the way Springs and Rogers do. ANd he has hands as bad as Rogers@! __________________ Optimism can make you look stupid, but cynicism always makes you look cynical. - Calum Fisher

09-09-2007, 11:32 PM	#34
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,261	Re: Smooooot Nooooooo He looked awful. I want the Washington Fred Smoot not the Minnesota Fred Smoot.

09-10-2007, 02:55 AM	#36
TenandSix:Unacceptable Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 331	Re: Smooooot Nooooooo I practically crapped myself on the INT drop. Other than that, corners are going to give up some plays, it's the nature of the position. All in all our CB's seemed to be in bend don't break mode. I must say that I am shocked at SS not starting. What's the dilly yo?

09-10-2007, 01:25 PM	#41
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Smooooot Nooooooo Fred Smoot lead our team with int's just about every year when he was playing beside Champ so its not like him to drop those kinds of passes.

09-10-2007, 06:03 PM	#44
killromo Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 199	Re: Smooooot Nooooooo smoot is a mouthy bum. nobody would even know who he was if he didn't run his jaws, a la deion sanders, or for his hooker boat. At least deion was good at one point (although not for us). I was saddened when he came back to town. bring back champ or d.green for that matter; shut down corners with class!

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