Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd?

Schneed10 · 09-11-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

lloyd isnt great... but we're being a bit harsh... I think we're just tired of reading about him having a piss poor attitude. I dont want a #1 wideout pro-bowler primadona (a la owns, moss, etc...) unless its chad johnson... but I really don't want a guy getting overpaid to be a #3 to have any kind of attitude...

heh... Hard On...hehehe

Dude, he's getting 30 million dollars to perform not like a number one, not like a number 2, not even like a number 3, but like a number 4 receiver. Last year's production was atrocious, and he was atrocious again on Sunday. How can you possibly be harsh ENOUGH on a bum that big?

Schneed10 · 09-11-2007, 08:51 PM

I will go on record, in this very thread. Mods, feel free to archive it. If Brandon Lloyd has any more than 600 receiving yards on the season, I'll donate $100 to the site.

600 yards would actually be a major improvement for him. But it's still CRAZY disappointing for someone with a $30 million contract and was signed to be the #2.

I'll still root for him to get to 600, for a few reasons. The most obvious being it'd help the Redskins, but also, $100 would go nicely towards a new server for these parts. But man, I'll be AMAZED if that happens. The guy sucks, and you can tell the coaches can't stand him.

Longtimefan · 09-11-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by steveo395

I was at the game and I was watching Lloyd that entire play. He was going deep in the endzone in single coverage, but once he got close to the endzone, he started to slow down. That was right when Campbell threw it, so then Lloyd looked up, started to speed up and ended up being short on the jump.

He had ample opportunity to make a play on the ball in one-on-one coverage. The idea there is, if you can't catch it, you don't let the defense catch it either. I was about 35-49 yds. away from that play, and I witnessed the same thing you did. I don't know how it looked to TV viewers, but being there, it was plain to see he could have done a much better job on the play.

Cowell · 09-11-2007, 08:59 PM

On TV it just looked the ball was thrown just a bit over his head and he couldn't get his hands on it. Of course the TV is deceptive, so who knows.

70Chip · 09-11-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by steveo395

I was at the game and I was watching Lloyd that entire play. He was going deep in the endzone in single coverage, but once he got close to the endzone, he started to slow down. That was right when Campbell threw it, so then Lloyd looked up, started to speed up and ended up being short on the jump.

That's what I saw on replay as well.

djnemo65 · 09-11-2007, 09:34 PM

The thing is, after the season he had last year, with his contract and possibly career riding on this season, Lloyd needs to do a lot more than he did. If anything we are not hard enough on him. See people defending him for reaching for a high pass.....ugh, yeah, that's kind of what professional receivers are expected to do.

This is a guy who alienated everyone on the team from the coach to the lunch ladies last year, who would be gone already if it wasn't for his absurd contract At this point it's up to him to turn perception around.

RobH4413 · 09-11-2007, 09:39 PM

Being to hard on Lloyd? I'm not sure we're being hard enough.

I jumped off the "I hate Lloyd" bandwagon some time ago, but he has yet to do much of anything. His good plays are few and far between, and he hasn't made much of the opportunity he's had.

I really really really want him to succeed. I think the guy has the potential to be a great receiver, but when a guy comes out and has a bad attitude about things that doesn't fly. Teammates say he turns everyone off from the trainers to the head coaches, he throws his helmet when he gets frustrated, and he's been quoted saying something like "I've had this attitude since I was 5, I see no reason to change it".

I'm willing to give him some chances, but this is year two of the Lloyd experiment.

Let's see some more results... then I'll cut him some more slack.

Cowell · 09-11-2007, 09:43 PM

Wow, the guy sounds about as mature as a little kid. If he doesen't get in gear this year I don't think we will see this guy around. Of course as with any case no matter how bad of an attitude or how bad a player has done before there will always be teams right there to scoop him up.

redskins5044 · 09-11-2007, 09:43 PM

he went up and tried to catch the ball. i cant say much for his effort after it was intercepted. but he tried to make the catch. i think the is more a problem with the front office including the hall of famer joe gibbs. he brought this guy here to play and they payed him all this money. gibbs and the crew knew his charater problems and trouble with other players on the 49ers team before they brought him here. it is the first game of the season i think we need to give him a chance to make some plays. he doesnt produce much this year he will probably be gone next year. and if that that happens gibbs has nobody to blame but him self.

Bill B · 09-11-2007, 09:52 PM

Actually listening to Riggo this evening and #44 said the writing is on the wall and if not for Llyod's massive contract he would already be gone and that they could not cut him due to cap reasons in-season. Riggo went on to say with Caldwell being signed it is over for Llyod and he will be cut in the offseason. Two picks and $10+ million later the Skins have finally learned what the 49ers already knew.

redskins5044 · 09-11-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill B

Actually listening to Riggo this evening and #44 said the writing is on the wall and if not for Llyod's massive contract he would already be gone and that they could not cut him due to cap reasons in-season. Riggo went on to say with Caldwell being signed it is over for Llyod and he will be cut in the offseason. Two picks and $10+ million later the Skins have finally learned what the 49ers already knew.

if this is true. then good job joe on trading 2 picks and spending all that money on true character guy. give the guy a chance. the first half of the season last brunell was the QB and then campbell who had ever played before. then through one game of the season we just give up on a guy. i thinks gibbs haslost his judgement on talent a little.we let walt harris go and then he turns into a pro bowler. draft a garbage corner in carlos rogers. hopefully what he saw in campbell is true. not to change subjects but springs is on his way out the door too, we are treating him the same we treated lavar.

Bill B · 09-11-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins5044

if this is true. then good job joe on trading 2 picks and spending all that money on true character guy. give the guy a chance. the first half of the season last brunell was the QB and then campbell who had ever played before. then through one game of the season we just give up on a guy. i thinks gibbs haslost his judgement on talent a little.we let walt harris go and then he turns into a pro bowler. draft a garbage corner in carlos rogers. hopefully what he saw in campbell is true. not to change subjects but springs is on his way out the door too, we are treating him the same we treated lavar.

My hope is that the team will calm down on trading any more picks for "proven" players. Maybe production will finally rule the day and the Skins will stop being the destination for players that "just want a big payday"

RobH4413 · 09-11-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by redskins5044

if this is true. then good job joe on trading 2 picks and spending all that money on true character guy. give the guy a chance. the first half of the season last brunell was the QB and then campbell who had ever played before. then through one game of the season we just give up on a guy. i thinks gibbs haslost his judgement on talent a little.we let walt harris go and then he turns into a pro bowler. draft a garbage corner in carlos rogers. hopefully what he saw in campbell is true. not to change subjects but springs is on his way out the door too, we are treating him the same we treated lavar.

I'm sure right now Rexi has a giant "Told you so!" smile on his face.

He warned everyone, and was written off as a lunatic. I heard him out some, and Grim decided to go postal on me.

Amazing how it unfolded exactly like Rexi had said it would.

Let's hope he's still wrong... Because I'd like for a good #3 receiver.

Cowell · 09-11-2007, 10:15 PM

We brought in Reche because I think he could be a good #3. The guy despite the fact that he dropped that pass in the playoffs is very reliable. He's not going to put up huge numbers but he is reliable.

hurrykaine · 09-11-2007, 10:31 PM

we pay this c--- all that money so he can look stylish as he tucks Portis shoulder pads back under his jersey after Portis gets gang tackled.

I think Lloyd is a diva, but am willing to reserve judgement as to whether he will pan out after a few more games. He has put in a little turd of a performance so far.

09-11-2007, 08:51 PM	#47
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd? I will go on record, in this very thread. Mods, feel free to archive it. If Brandon Lloyd has any more than 600 receiving yards on the season, I'll donate $100 to the site. 600 yards would actually be a major improvement for him. But it's still CRAZY disappointing for someone with a $30 million contract and was signed to be the #2. I'll still root for him to get to 600, for a few reasons. The most obvious being it'd help the Redskins, but also, $100 would go nicely towards a new server for these parts. But man, I'll be AMAZED if that happens. The guy sucks, and you can tell the coaches can't stand him. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

09-11-2007, 08:59 PM	#49
Cowell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bluffton, South Carolina Posts: 803	Re: Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd? On TV it just looked the ball was thrown just a bit over his head and he couldn't get his hands on it. Of course the TV is deceptive, so who knows.

09-11-2007, 09:34 PM	#51
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd? The thing is, after the season he had last year, with his contract and possibly career riding on this season, Lloyd needs to do a lot more than he did. If anything we are not hard enough on him. See people defending him for reaching for a high pass.....ugh, yeah, that's kind of what professional receivers are expected to do. This is a guy who alienated everyone on the team from the coach to the lunch ladies last year, who would be gone already if it wasn't for his absurd contract At this point it's up to him to turn perception around.

09-11-2007, 09:39 PM	#52
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 41 Posts: 2,638	Re: Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd? Being to hard on Lloyd? I'm not sure we're being hard enough. I jumped off the "I hate Lloyd" bandwagon some time ago, but he has yet to do much of anything. His good plays are few and far between, and he hasn't made much of the opportunity he's had. I really really really want him to succeed. I think the guy has the potential to be a great receiver, but when a guy comes out and has a bad attitude about things that doesn't fly. Teammates say he turns everyone off from the trainers to the head coaches, he throws his helmet when he gets frustrated, and he's been quoted saying something like "I've had this attitude since I was 5, I see no reason to change it". I'm willing to give him some chances, but this is year two of the Lloyd experiment. Let's see some more results... then I'll cut him some more slack. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

09-11-2007, 09:43 PM	#53
Cowell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bluffton, South Carolina Posts: 803	Re: Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd? Wow, the guy sounds about as mature as a little kid. If he doesen't get in gear this year I don't think we will see this guy around. Of course as with any case no matter how bad of an attitude or how bad a player has done before there will always be teams right there to scoop him up.

09-11-2007, 09:43 PM	#54
redskins5044 Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Schertz, Tx Age: 46 Posts: 3,224	Re: Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd? he went up and tried to catch the ball. i cant say much for his effort after it was intercepted. but he tried to make the catch. i think the is more a problem with the front office including the hall of famer joe gibbs. he brought this guy here to play and they payed him all this money. gibbs and the crew knew his charater problems and trouble with other players on the 49ers team before they brought him here. it is the first game of the season i think we need to give him a chance to make some plays. he doesnt produce much this year he will probably be gone next year. and if that that happens gibbs has nobody to blame but him self.

09-11-2007, 09:52 PM	#55
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Re: Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd? Actually listening to Riggo this evening and #44 said the writing is on the wall and if not for Llyod's massive contract he would already be gone and that they could not cut him due to cap reasons in-season. Riggo went on to say with Caldwell being signed it is over for Llyod and he will be cut in the offseason. Two picks and $10+ million later the Skins have finally learned what the 49ers already knew.

09-11-2007, 10:15 PM	#59
Cowell Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bluffton, South Carolina Posts: 803	Re: Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd? We brought in Reche because I think he could be a good #3. The guy despite the fact that he dropped that pass in the playoffs is very reliable. He's not going to put up huge numbers but he is reliable.

09-11-2007, 10:31 PM	#60
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 53 Posts: 762	Re: Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd? we pay this c--- all that money so he can look stylish as he tucks Portis shoulder pads back under his jersey after Portis gets gang tackled. I think Lloyd is a diva, but am willing to reserve judgement as to whether he will pan out after a few more games. He has put in a little turd of a performance so far.

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