The I hate the Patriots thread!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm with Skinsfan69 on this...sort of. Knowing the defensive signals certainly helped but you still have to be able to execute against it. And I don't think they knew any signals when Ellis Hobbs returned the kickoff 108 yards for a touchdown in week one, or when Ty Law had the INT for a TD in the Super Bowl against the Rams, or when Vinatieri kicked two game-winning Super Bowl field goals. True, you can maybe argue that because they knew the signals the offense was able to march downfield to get in field goal position, (if they were indeed videotaping back then) but AV still has to hit those field goals and they weren't gimmes.

No one is arguing what they did hit...they are arguing how they got there. Even just 2 or 3 pivotal plays means a lot in football, and I'm sure they used their info a lot more than just 2 or 3 plays. How many times did the Pats "mysteriously" stop the best offense in the league in that Rams super bowl? Again, we'll never know, but it answers a lot of questions if you ask me.

This conversation boils down to one question:
If it didn't help them, if they didn't use it to cheat, then why do it all?
(nuff said)