Week 3: Giants at Redskins Game Thread

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I would agree with that definition, but look at this:

3rd Quarter
2-7-WAS 33 (9:13) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 89-S.Moss.

4th Quarter
1-10-WAS 38 (5:25) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep right to 89-S.Moss.
1-10-NYG 48 (4:02) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 82-A.Randle El (29-S.Madison).
2-10-NYG 35 (3:43) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 82-A.Randle El [92-M.Strahan].

We definately took our shots in that game. On the last drive, we completed two "long" passes. 2/6 isn't a bad long pass completion rate for a half, its to be expected.

We had as many deep passes as handoffs to Portis in the second half. Can that be twisted as conservative?

Washington Redskins at 09:50
9-L.Tynes kicks 53 yards from NYG 30 to WAS 17. 31-R.Cartwright to WAS 30 for 13 yards (22-R.Droughns).
1-10-WAS 30 (9:46) 26-C.Portis right guard to WAS 33 for 3 yards (97-M.Kiwanuka).
2-7-WAS 33 (9:13) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 89-S.Moss.
3-7-WAS 33 (9:07) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short left to 89-S.Moss.
4-7-WAS 33 (9:04) 4-D.Frost punts 52 yards to NYG 15, Center-67-E.Albright. 25-R.McQuarters to NYG 21 for 6 yards (50-K.Campbell, 31-R.Cartwright).
Three and out, one deep pass...still conservative.

Washington Redskins at 06:00
1-10-WAS 14 (6:00) 17-J.Campbell pass short left to 26-C.Portis to WAS 10 for -4 yards (29-S.Madison).
2-14-WAS 10 (5:22) 26-C.Portis right end to WAS 18 for 8 yards (97-M.Kiwanuka).
3-6-WAS 18 (4:40) 17-J.Campbell scrambles up the middle to WAS 20 for 2 yards (31-A.Ross).
4-4-WAS 20 (3:58) 4-D.Frost punts 42 yards to NYG 38, Center-67-E.Albright, downed by WAS.
[/i]3 straight conservative plays[/i]

Washington Redskins at 12:33
9-L.Tynes kicks 62 yards from NYG 30 to WAS 8. 31-R.Cartwright pushed ob at WAS 45 for 37 yards (28-G.Wilson).
1-10-WAS 45 (12:25) 89-S.Moss left end to WAS 47 for 2 yards (29-S.Madison). End around
2-8-WAS 47 (11:45) 26-C.Portis left tackle to 50 for 3 yards (91-J.Tuck).
3-5- (11:08) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short middle to 26-C.Portis.
4-5- (11:03) 4-D.Frost punts 43 yards to NYG 7, Center-67-E.Albright, downed by WAS-45-M.Sellers.
Another 3 and out and 3 consecutive conservative plays

Washington Redskins at 08:19
1-10-WAS 42 (8:19) 26-C.Portis right tackle to WAS 43 for 1 yard (92-M.Strahan).
2-9-WAS 43 (7:46) 17-J.Campbell FUMBLES (Aborted) at WAS 43, RECOVERED by NYG-58-A.Pierce at WAS 44. 58-A.Pierce to WAS 44 for no gain (47-C.Cooley). Fumbled Hand-off to 26-C.Portis
2 consecutive conservative plays, one resulting in a fumble

Washington Redskins at 05:32
9-L.Tynes kicks 68 yards from NYG 30 to WAS 2. 31-R.Cartwright to WAS 38 for 36 yards (28-G.Wilson, 22-R.Droughns).
1-10-WAS 38 (5:25) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep right to 89-S.Moss.
2-10-WAS 38 (5:19) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 26-C.Portis to WAS 40 for 2 yards (28-G.Wilson).
3-8-WAS 40 (4:39) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 82-A.Randle El to NYG 48 for 12 yards (29-S.Madison).
1-10-NYG 48 (4:02) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 82-A.Randle El (29-S.Madison).
2-10-NYG 48 (3:55) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 46-L.Betts pushed ob at NYG 35 for 13 yards (9-L.Tynes).
1-10-NYG 35 (3:48) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short left to 45-M.Sellers.
2-10-NYG 35 (3:43) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 82-A.Randle El [92-M.Strahan].
3-10-NYG 35 (3:37) 17-J.Campbell sacked at NYG 39 for -4 yards (97-M.Kiwanuka). FUMBLES (97-M.Kiwanuka), recovered by WAS-47-C.Cooley at NYG 46. 47-C.Cooley to NYG 46 for no gain (58-A.Pierce).
4-21-NYG 46 (2:54) 4-D.Frost punts 34 yards to NYG 12, Center-67-E.Albright, fair catch by 25-R.McQuarters.
7 consecutive passes, including 2 deep passes because we were behind with little time left. Had we not been so conservative before this drive we wouldn't be in a "pass every down" situation.

Washington Redskins at 02:19
1-10-NYG 35 (2:19) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short middle to 46-L.Betts.
2-10-NYG 35 (2:13) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell sacked at NYG 36 for -1 yards (97-M.Kiwanuka).
Two-Minute Warning
3-11-NYG 36 (2:00) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass deep middle to 82-A.Randle El to NYG 11 for 25 yards (28-G.Wilson). PENALTY on WAS-61-C.Rabach, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at NYG 36 - No Play.
3-21-NYG 46 (1:53) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass deep middle to 89-S.Moss to NYG 28 for 18 yards (37-J.Butler).
Timeout #3 by WAS at 01:45.
4-3-NYG 28 (1:45) (Pass formation) PENALTY on WAS-61-C.Rabach, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at NYG 28 - No Play.
4-8-NYG 33 (1:45) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 89-S.Moss to NYG 18 for 15 yards (28-G.Wilson).
1-10-NYG 18 (1:22) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell FUMBLES (Aborted) at NYG 18, and recovers at NYG 21. 17-J.Campbell to NYG 21 for no gain (91-J.Tuck).
2-13-NYG 21 (1:15) 17-J.Campbell spiked the ball to stop the clock.
3-13-NYG 21 (1:07) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass deep middle to 82-A.Randle El to NYG 1 for 20 yards (37-J.Butler, 31-A.Ross).
1-1-NYG 1 (:58) 17-J.Campbell spiked the ball to stop the clock.
Timeout #2 by NYG at 00:51.
2-1-NYG 1 (:51) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to 45-M.Sellers (55-K.Mitchell).
3-1-NYG 1 (:47) 46-L.Betts left tackle to NYG 1 for no gain (55-K.Mitchell).
4-1-NYG 1 (:25) 46-L.Betts left end to NYG 3 for -2 yards (37-J.Butler).

So as you can see, only 1 time in the first 11 plays were they not conservative.
The last two possessions were not very conservative cause we had to make a come back and throw on way too many downs. That's what happens when you call a poor game and then need to dig yourself out of a hole.