Classless Coach Belichick

[12thMan]

I'll tell you what this game is really headed toward: The day when Roger Goodell has to hand over that Vince Lombardi trophy to Bob Kraft and that SOB Belichick and feign his sincerest congratulations to the Patriots and their city. You think Belichick isn't replaying this in his mind somehow?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I work with a Patriots fan and we just had a heated, VERY heated discussion about this. Its funny how most of us and sports columnist, experts feel this was classless act by what transpired on the field yesterday, he was flipping out defending his coach and team. I for one am a diehard skins fan and I guess I was brought up during Gibbs 1 and am i guessed spoiled by having a coach with class. Winning with class, losing with class is what I have always known. its amazes me to see how feverishly he was defending his teams actions and didn't think it was classless if not unwaranted behavior by his coach. I eventually had to end the conversation because I was getting a little over heated. It was not the fact we got our asses whipped, it is the fashion at which the patriots were instructed to play by their coach. He just could not see this and kept screaming this is what they are paid to do. I guess I was hoping to have a conversation with a knowledgable fan that understands the meaning of winning with class, but I guess I was wrong.

I just became on of the biggest colt supporters for next week. and who ever else plays their sorry asses the rest of the year. I hope he tries this shit with someone that has no patience or tollerance for that crap.

Most of the sports reporters have never ever played sports. They just report on them. So what they say should not really mean anything. Also not all of the people believe what NE did was wrong. I am one of them.

I have heard most of the former Redskin players say that NE did nothing wrong. You have your opinion but as I've said before, the defense is suppose to stop the offense.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by offiss

I have a question for you, how appalled where you 2 seasons ago when we had the cowboys dead and buried in the 4th quarter and they were trying to move the ball for a consolation TD and Williams kept sending multiple blitzes at Bledsoe? I remember Bledsoe taking a beating of beatings that last drive did you have a problem with that? Because if I remember correctly most here thought it was great? I didn't have a problem with it at the time but then again I'm not a hypocrite. So is G. Williams a classless individual as well? I would love your expert opinion!

First of all, if you don't understand why I love Gibbs than I really don't have much to say to you.

Second, it's one thing to play defense, it's another to run up the score when you've clearly got the game in hand. I don't think I have ever heard anyone complain about the Patriots playing defense until the bitter end.

Third, perhaps you were not an avid Spurrier fan and, if that is the case, I stand corrected. Perhaps you just piss and moan about everything this organization has ever done.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I heard that belichick doesn't wash his hands after he goes to the bathroom and that he farts in public.
(there, that should end this thread)

LOL! here, here!

[Dlyne8r]

Take a look at a great piece by John Clayton on ESPN.com:

"Running it up: Belichick, Pats take no prisoners"

Among other things Clayton writes: "...On Sunday, Belichick kicked a Hall of Fame coach while he was down, running up the score on Joe Gibbs' Redskins in a 52-7 win..."

ESPN - Clayton: Running it up: Belichick, Pats take no prisoners - NFL

[warriorzpath]

All I know about this is - class or no class, I would be pissed if I was one of the redskins. The rest of the season, I would be looking to tear someone's head off on every play - just to get another chance at putting Brady or Vrabel's ass in the hospital, hopefully in the superbowl.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Totally different situation.

Yes, the Cowboys were down but a huge deficit, but Parcells kept on pushing into the final seconds of the game, keeping his starters in. Most teams, down that much and in the final couple of minutes would have sent in the backups to throw it around. Parcells kept all his starterss in and kept driving for meaningless points in the last minute of the game, so yeah, I don't blame Williams one bit for sending blitzes in that situation.

I wouldn't blame Belichick one bit for blitzing us when we were pushing for meaningless points late in the game either. Frankly I'm not sure why CP, Moss, and our precious few offensive linemen that we have left were still in the game at that point. Seems like a needless risk by Gibbs and Co. to me.

So in that situation, yeah, Belichick can blitz all he wants and I've got no problem. Turning around and piliing it on with the offensive play calling is a different issue - he sets the tone with that, not us.

So yesterday when it was 45-0 in the 4th quarter, why did Gibbs keep the starters in the game, if what you say is true?

[12thMan]

I'll be pissed if you guys let me get to post #5,000 while defending Bill Belichick!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

So yesterday when it was 45-0 in the 4th quarter, why did Gibbs keep the starters in the game, if what you say is true?

You said a mouthfull, and to your point, if Gibbs had pulled his starters, it's reasonable to think BB would have done the same. Don't keep your starters in the game, and at the same time complain about running up the score. Again, my definition of "running up the score" requires that one team has an unfair advantage over the other one. This wasn't the case.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

So yesterday when it was 45-0 in the 4th quarter, why did Gibbs keep the starters in the game, if what you say is true?

If you read on to the next paragraph I said it seemed like a needless risk by Gibbs and Co. I still question that one, especially given how beat up we already are by injuries. At 45-0 in the 4th quarter I would have pulled the entire offensive line.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Honestly Matty,
Heartbreaking though to watch, they did us a favor. They showed us how it really is to play a top flight team. Where we are in the pecking order. How many weakness's we have a what they are.

Couldn't agree more!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

You said a mouthfull, and to your point, if Gibbs had pulled his starters, it's reasonable to think BB would have done the same. Don't keep your starters in the game, and at the same time complain about running up the score. Again, my definition of "running up the score" requires that one team has an unfair advantage over the other one. This wasn't the case.

If he pulled the entire line who would play?

[firstdown]

Man the more I read this thread the more I wish it was us smacking teams around the field like they have been doing. Indy is next and will loose by more than 14 points!

[offiss]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Totally different situation.

Yes, the Cowboys were down but a huge deficit, but Parcells kept on pushing into the final seconds of the game, keeping his starters in. Most teams, down that much and in the final couple of minutes would have sent in the backups to throw it around. Parcells kept all his starterss in and kept driving for meaningless points in the last minute of the game, so yeah, I don't blame Williams one bit for sending blitzes in that situation.

I wouldn't blame Belichick one bit for blitzing us when we were pushing for meaningless points late in the game either. Frankly I'm not sure why CP, Moss, and our precious few offensive linemen that we have left were still in the game at that point. Seems like a needless risk by Gibbs and Co. to me.

So in that situation, yeah, Belichick can blitz all he wants and I've got no problem. Turning around and piliing it on with the offensive play calling is a different issue - he sets the tone with that, not us.

Well did we pull all our starters out on defense and run up the white flag? If not according to what you have said there is no difference in circumstances.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Man the more I read this thread the more I wish it was us smacking teams around the field like they have been doing. Indy is next and will loose by more than 14 points!

Indy has a good D, plus, their offense can take time off the clock and actually score points. I won't be surprised at all if Indy wins, actually I expect them to.