Daseal's take on the game!

[NY_Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not sure we'll be any better off with him in there.

I agree but what's the point of keeping Brunell in there now...The team is going nowhere with him. If Ramsey starts he practices with the first team. It may take a while for him to become used to the offese and get his confidence back but I would rather have him do that now so he gains the experience. THe sooner the better.

[joecrisp]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Matty - personally I'd rather see our offense move the ball and make mistakes. Than not move the ball and not make mistakes.

Exactly. Mistakes can be learned from and corrected. The fear of making mistakes has a paralyzing effect and inhibits progression. Gibbs doesn't want his quarterback to take any risks, so he keeps Brunell in there, because he knows Brunell will obey that primary directive. Gibbs has been promoting the philosophy of protecting the football and not putting the defense in bad situations. Ironically, that philosophy has backfired, producing a neutered offense that has been completely impotent, and putting the defense in the position of having to completely shutdown and shutout the opposing offense. This defense is good, but it obviously isn't that good.

Maybe Mark Brunell can lead this offense to dominance, but it won't happen as long as Gibbs single-mindedly promotes the dogma of rigid cautiousness over measured aggression. My feeling is that Ramsey is a natural aggressor as a quarterback, and is far better suited both mentally and physically for the purpose of mounting an aerial assault than Brunell at this point.

The only arguments that can be made against Ramsey replacing Brunell are based on a fear of failure:

"What if he throws interceptions?"
"What if the defense blitzes?"
"What if he gets sacked?"

"What if we still lose?"

The fear of failure paralyzes, and inhibits progression. You can't succeed without risking failure. There's been plenty of failure this season. It's time for Coach Gibbs to let go of his fear.

"What if he wins, Coach?"

"What if he wins?"

[NY_Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by joecrisp

Exactly. Mistakes can be learned from and corrected. The fear of making mistakes has a paralyzing effect and inhibits progression. Gibbs doesn't want his quarterback to take any risks, so he keeps Brunell in there, because he knows Brunell will obey that primary directive. Gibbs has been promoting the philosophy of protecting the football and not putting the defense in bad situations. Ironically, that philosophy has backfired, producing a neutered offense that has been completely impotent, and putting the defense in the position of having to completely shutdown and shutout the opposing offense. This defense is good, but it obviously isn't that good.

Maybe Mark Brunell can lead this offense to dominance, but it won't happen as long as Gibbs single-mindedly promotes the dogma of rigid cautiousness over measured aggression. My feeling is that Ramsey is a natural aggressor as a quarterback, and is far better suited both mentally and physically for the purpose of mounting an aerial assault than Brunell at this point.




The only arguments that can be made against Ramsey replacing Brunell are based on a fear of failure:

"What if he throws interceptions?"
"What if the defense blitzes?"
"What if he gets sacked?"

"What if we still lose?"

The fear of failure paralyzes, and inhibits progression. You can't succeed without risking failure. There's been plenty of failure this season. It's time for Coach Gibbs to let go of his fear.

"What if he wins, Coach?"

"What if he wins?"

Wow....maybe we can get Gibbs to read this somehow. He might change his miind. Great post joecrisp

[SmootSmack]

I can respect Gibbs'decision to start Brunell. We're only five games in after all. And no, he's not entirely to blame for the offense's struggles. But more often than not QBs that are benched (non-injury benchings) are not entirely to blame. But the nature of the position dictates that when you need to get something going from the offense you can make changes at RB (we shouldn't), WR (we should), or wherever but it doesn't have the same effect as changing the QB.

Ultimately Brunell's true value to the team will be something that will be difficult to the measure. Several reasons were given for acquiring Brunell-veteran QB, QB depth-but I think one of the biggest reasons is that it gave Ramsey the chance to observe the offense and learn the playbook without feeling like he has to carry the team on his back with every snap from game one. At least it was supposed to. Let's see now if he's learned anything so far.

[Hogskin]

Originally Posted by NY_Skinsfan

Wow....maybe we can get Gibbs to read this somehow. He might change his miind. Great post joecrisp

I assume this was intended to be facetious. Does anyone really think comments by a fan are going to modify his coaching plans?? Spurrier, maybe. Not Gibbs, Parcells, Belichick, Dungy, etc, etc, etc. They have a plan. And if the plan is not working, they make the adjustments they need to, and get it working.

Gibbs may change QB's. If he does, it most likely will be over the BYE break. Not likely now or in the middle of a game. I'm confident all these backup plans are somewhere in that great mind of his...

[NY_Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Hogskin

I assume this was intended to be facetious. Does anyone really think comments by a fan are going to modify his coaching plans?? Spurrier, maybe. Not Gibbs, Parcells, Belichick, Dungy, etc, etc, etc. They have a plan. And if the plan is not working, they make the adjustments they need to, and get it working.

Gibbs may change QB's. If he does, it most likely will be over the BYE break. Not likely now or in the middle of a game. I'm confident all these backup plans are somewhere in that great mind of his...

ya think?

Of course no head coach of any professional sports team is going to use comments by a fan in modifying game plans...

My point to that post was that I was really impressed with how JoeCrisp used his words..the man really writes well and I enjoy reading all of his posts. But hell, it would be great if Gibbs saw what JoeCirsp and the rest of us sees from the stands.

Oh, and JoeCrisp I hope you uderstand that I wasn't being "facetious" or had any intent other that I was really impressed with what you wrote.

[joecrisp]

Originally Posted by NY_Skinsfan

Oh, and JoeCrisp I hope you uderstand that I wasn't being "facetious" or had any intent other that I was really impressed with what you wrote.

No offense taken, NY, and I truly appreciate your kind words.

I don't think any writer undertakes his work with the pretense that his work will somehow alter the course of his subject matter. The motivation for most writers who are passionate about what they do is a compulsive desire to seek out the truth on a subject, to distill it and express it in words. Often we're way off base, but hopefully sometimes, we strike upon and expose a small nugget of truth.

My compulsion to write and seek out the truth is equalled by my thirst for knowledge of the game I love. I never feel as if I know enough about the game and its intricacies, and so I'm constantly driven to learn more, to glean as much knowledge as possible from as many sources as possible. That's what makes forums such as this so fantastic for people like me. Quite simply, it's a nexus of football knowledge...

...and I'm not being facetious!

[davy]

No offence intended to anybody but I will always put the judgement of Joe Gibbs a long way in front of any writer, if he is happy for Mark Brunell to continue as starter then that's good enough for me.