Brunell is killing Portis

[Gmanc711]

If you keep leading recivers into hits, eventually they arent going to be as agressive across the middle anymore. However, all the QBs do that somtimes, and its football, they are going to get hit. I dont really fault Brunell for that.

[SkinsRock]

The problem with Brunell is that he is not leading the receivers with his passes. He throws it too soft or too short, which allows the defenders to catch up and make the hit, so there are less yards after the catch. Yes there have been a few exceptions, and Ramsey would probably throw too hard and overthrow it at times, but he would at least have the ability to put the ball in front of the receiver where he has the best (and only) chance to catch it....as opposed to the "jump balls" Brunell has been throwing. Plus for shorter passes, his strong arm would get the ball there quicker, and give the receiver more of a chance to start moving before getting hit.

[SUNRA]

[QUOTE=That Guy]brunell cost us 21 points, ramsey cost 0... brunell has been sacked a bunch this year if you forgot

i'll take a shot over throwing the ball away on 3rd and 1 any day, its not working. I'm here to tell YOU not to be functionally fixated on 3 plays and look at the entire performance. BRUNELL IS SUCKING, HARD.

ramsey throws more TDs than INTs and has way less fumbles returned for touchdowns (0). Brunell at this point has given up more points than he's scored... ramsey is +7. If you want to judge ramsey, give him an entire week with the first string and an entire game where he doesn't start 14 points behind with an abandoned running game.[/QUOTE

Ramsey did practice with the first team and sucked hard. That's why he didn't start against Dallas. He's not even close to being ready to lead this team.

[That Guy]

Ramsey did practice with the first team and sucked hard. That's why he didn't start against Dallas. He's not even close to being ready to lead this team.

and you know this because you went and saw the practices first hand, right?

sorry, that's not very convincing, gibbs has a history of sticking with QBs well after their skills have left them, and I think we're just seeing that again.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by That Guy

and you know this because you went and saw the practices first hand, right?

sorry, that's not very convincing, gibbs has a history of sticking with QBs well after their skills have left them, and I think we're just seeing that again.

If the way Ramsey practices doesn't qualify Gibbs to bench him then blame Gibbs for not having the intelligence to distinguish the two. I think action speaks louder than words. If Brunell puts up the numbers against Chicago that he put up against Dallas, he keeps his job.

[That Guy]

i totally agree with that SUNRA, but gibbs sticks with QBs even when they really really suck... go look at his first stint, i don't think any coach is nearly as loyal to their starting QBs as gibbs is... even when its hurting the team.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

If the way Ramsey practices doesn't qualify Gibbs to bench him then blame Gibbs for not having the intelligence to distinguish the two. I think action speaks louder than words. If Brunell puts up the numbers against Chicago that he put up against Dallas, he keeps his job.

Which number are you talking about, I know it's not a number in the win column.

He threw the ball up for grab's twice to Gardner, and Gardner made 2 absolutly spectacular catches for close to 100 yard's, the cowboy's are lousy this year, and he couldn't beat them, end of story.

If action's speak louder than word's, Brunell would be on the bench, because his action's on the field have been pitiful.

[backrow]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Gmanc711:


Patrick Ramsey's yards per attempt for his career is 6.61

Donovan McNabb's yards per attempt for his career is 6.28.

Vinny Testaverde's yards per attempt for his career is 6.92.

Tom Brady's yards per pass attempt for his career is 6.74.

Very well stated! What whould we gain from inserting P. Ram for M. Brunell?

A whole yard and a half!

But Ram doesn't have the head for the game that Brunell has.

I never wanted the trade for Brunell. I'm liking it less and less each day!

[irish]

Gibbs must really have no faith at all in PR as a QB. If he had even a glimmer he would have given him some playing time considering how bad MB has played.

I am afraid the skins will be spending another drifat pick this spring on a QB.

[SkinsRock]

Originally Posted by irish

Gibbs must really have no faith at all in PR as a QB. If he had even a glimmer he would have given him some playing time considering how bad MB has played.

I am afraid the skins will be spending another drifat pick this spring on a QB.

I don't think that is the case at all. Gibbs is and has always been the type of coach that views the QB as the leader of the team, and because of that, he will only switch QB's as a last resort....as others have pointed out from his previous tenure. That combined with the fact that while Brunell has certainly not played well, the entire offense has been struggling. If either Brunell or Portis can get things going, the other one will follow...