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[QBall]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.

Great points!!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

This would be another stupid move by a broken/disfunctional franchise. For some reason the Skins feel the need to use evryone else's cast off and reject coaches insteading of bringing in a new coach and letting him prove himself. I cant imagine the results would be any worse than they have been.

So you think the choice should be neither Williams nor Fassel, but rather someone like say...Jim Zorn

[redwagonskins]

Originally Posted by J. Spanky

thanks for the info.

and for, u know, shooting down the biggest upside i saw in this whole rumour. (that being, the co-rumour that ryan may be coming with fassel) sigh.

My bad, brudda. Many apologies.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.

What do you mean by this?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I will NEVER jump off the Redskins bandwagon, but, if true, I don't like the move. So pretty much the entire coaching staff wants GW, the players wants GW, the owner preaches about the importance of continuity, and yet we hire a new guy who will likely fire many of the coaches and want to make significant changes to the roster? I can't quite follow that logic.

The only way this move will make sense is if Williams and Saunders remain on the staff as the defensive and offensive coordinators, respectively.

I feel almost exactly the same way.
My only difference is that while I'd like to keep Saunders, if he does leave and we bring in a new OC who has a better system for Campbell I'd be happy too.

I want what seems best for this team and Fassel, who could be a decent coach again, does not seem like the best coach out there.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So you think the choice should be neither Williams nor Fassel, but rather someone like say...Jim Zorn

Correct. Not Zorn, I would prefer Schwartz.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by irish

This would be another stupid move by a broken/disfunctional franchise. For some reason the Skins feel the need to use evryone else's cast off and reject coaches insteading of bringing in a new coach and letting him prove himself. I cant imagine the results would be any worse than they have been.

Isn't Gregg Williams someone else's cast off reject coach?

It continues to amaze me the conviction people have (not pointing to you Irish) about Grilliams being the sure deal to make us a long term winner. Last I checked, he was one of the coaching 'leaders' on a team that went 5-11 in 2006. If Gibbs stepped down after last year there would be about 1/3 of the support for GW.. The herd mentality that some people have is baffling to me..

I challenge anyone to give 5 reasons EXCLUDING CONTINUITY (because we don't know what Williams plans truly would be) that he would be the sure fire lock for the best choice. I'll even spot you #1.

#1-The players, Gibbs and other coaches support and endorse him..
#2-
#3-
#4-
#5-

[irish]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Isn't Gregg Williams someone else's cast off reject coach?

It continues to amaze me the conviction people have (not pointing to you Irish) about Grilliams being the sure deal to make us a long term winner. Last I checked, he was one of the coaching 'leaders' on a team that went 5-11 in 2006. If Gibbs stepped down after last year there would be about 1/3 of the support for GW.. The herd mentality that some people have is baffling to me..

I challenge anyone to give 5 reasons EXCLUDING CONTINUITY (because we don't know what Williams plans truly would be) that he would be the sure fire lock for the best choice. I'll even spot you #1.

#1-The players, Gibbs and other coaches support and endorse him..
#2-
#3-
#4-
#5-

He is and I have said I didnt want him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Isn't Gregg Williams someone else's cast off reject coach?

It continues to amaze me the conviction people have (not pointing to you Irish) about Grilliams being the sure deal to make us a long term winner. Last I checked, he was one of the coaching 'leaders' on a team that went 5-11 in 2006. If Gibbs stepped down after last year there would be about 1/3 of the support for GW.. The herd mentality that some people have is baffling to me..

I challenge anyone to give 5 reasons EXCLUDING CONTINUITY (because we don't know what Williams plans truly would be) that he would be the sure fire lock for the best choice. I'll even spot you #1.

#1-The players, Gibbs and other coaches support and endorse him..
#2-
#3-
#4-
#5-

You're my new hero

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

This move, if it even happens, won't even make sense to me until we're eight games into next season. I won't buy into the interviews by the players, the other coaches, or not the media. I want to see it on the field.

Let's remember this is a playoff team, gentlemen. Unless Fassel can take us to the next round or even the conference championship, I'll be very unforgiving of this move.

I'm pretty much right with you 12th. I can't understand it it's not like Fassle won much with the G-Men and now all the players all have to learn new systems. If we don’t keep Bugel after what he did with the O-line last year then Snyder is defiantly lost the plot and all Gibbs hard work will ne for not. Needles to say this move doesn’t get me real excited.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

Correct. Not Zorn, I would prefer Schwartz.

Yeah I'm a big Schwartz fan too. I think Williams deserves another chance to be head coach, and his best opportunity to succeed would probably come here but he's not the end all and be all answer.

[atomicnixon]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

i just vomitted, & pooped, & peed myself all at the same time.

We all just did. For some reason this seems like a real shot below the belt, like Snyder has no respect for Gibbs and doesn't seem to care what he thinks (as it was reported he was lobbying for Gregg Williams behind the scene). I wish Mr. Cooke would have given the franchise to one of his children rather than sell it to that idiot Snyder.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by atomicnixon

We all just did. For some reason this seems like a real shot below the belt, like Snyder has no respect for Gibbs and doesn't seem to care what he thinks (as it was reported he was lobbying for Gregg Williams behind the scene). I wish Mr. Cooke would have given the franchise to one of his children rather than sell it to that idiot Snyder.

How could he be lobbying for GW when it was reported that he was backing the promotion of Cerrato? I'm going to assume Gibbs knew all about their bad blood. Not to make Gibbs out to be straddling the line or anything but he must have known that if Cerrato got promoted that GW was pretty much as good as gone.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I will NEVER jump off the Redskins bandwagon, but, if true, I don't like the move. So pretty much the entire coaching staff wants GW, the players wants GW, the owner preaches about the importance of continuity, and yet we hire a new guy who will likely fire many of the coaches and want to make significant changes to the roster? I can't quite follow that logic.

The only way this move will make sense is if Williams and Saunders remain on the staff as the defensive and offensive coordinators, respectively.

According to JLC it looks like Saunders is "in hot water" as well. Seattle's QB coach is interviewing for the OC job.

[Lady Brave]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.

That's how I feel about the whole situation too. I'm trying to reserve judgment until I hear the official announcement. I'm also trying very hard to give Snyder the benefit of the doubt, but the whole thing just doesn't feel right for some reason.

Given the kind of season we had, I just think GW is in a better position to take over the leadership of this team right now. I think the cohesiveness of the staff and players is better than it has been in years. Why change that now and bring in a whole new dynamic with a new staff?