Assigning Blame: Pass Rush

[Dirtbag59]

Just wanted to know what you guys thought was the main reason for the teams pass rushing woes this season. If possible I wouldn't mind seeing a poll. Anyway what do you guys attribute as the main reason for lack of a pass rush?

- The Scheme -Greg Blache is too commited to stoping the run and in turn doesn't give our DE's enough freedom to set up opposing offensive lineman.

- The offense - is preventing us from getting leads big enough that our front four can rarely let loose and unload on opposing offenses. As a result teams are able to keep us honest by using the run since we can't generate a lead big enough for opponents to consider abandoning the ground game.

- The 4-3 - Teams are starting to figure our the 4-3 and everyone knows that the 3-4 is better for getting after the passer in today's NFL.

- The personnel - Either your blaming Taylor and Carter outright or you feel the defense's inability to get a good push up the middle is going a long way towards preventing our DE's from getting to the Quarterback.

- Other - Anything from blaiming the front office to the possibility that space aliens are using graviton beems that fire on our players at the most inconvient moments.

Personally I'm starting to think the offense is to blame.

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Personally I'm starting to think the offense is to blame.

Me too.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Just wanted to know what you guys thought was the main reason for the teams pass rushing woes this season. If possible I wouldn't mind seeing a poll. Anyway what do you guys attribute as the main reason for lack of a pass rush?

- The Scheme -Greg Blache is too commited to stoping the run and in turn doesn't give our DE's enough freedom to set up opposing offensive lineman.

- The offense - is preventing us from getting leads big enough that our front four can rarely let loose and unload on opposing offenses. As a result teams are able to keep us honest by using the run since we can't generate a lead big enough for opponents to consider abandoning the ground game.

- The 4-3 - Teams are starting to figure our the 4-3 and everyone knows that the 3-4 is better for getting after the passer in today's NFL.

- The personnel - Either your blaming Taylor and Carter outright or you feel the defense's inability to get a good push up the middle is going a long way towards getting our DE's from getting to the Quarterback.

- Other - Anything from blaiming the front office to the possibility that space aliens are using graviton beems that fire on our players at the most inconvient moments.

Personally I'm starting to think the offense is to blame.

The offense? I mean, if the problem was that it was turning the ball over, giving too many short fields/sudden change situations, and the defense was giving up too many points, then yeah you'd have the offense to blame.

But our offense is near the bottom of the league in total turnovers, and frequently gives the defense long field to work with while consuming time off the clock. Our offense is a defenses' best friend, and actually makes it's job easier than one that scores a lot of points and kicks off a lot.

I believe it's mainly a blitz-happy scheme, but it might be the personnel. That's really all it can be, right? I mean, 3-4 vs. 4-3, we don't confuse anyone with our blitz packages, and rarely pressure everyone. That's part because we don't have good pass rushing LBs, which is personnel, but the total product is scheme-oriented.

So it's less about run fits and play recognition as it is about a scheme that requires ends to attack the offense a certain way, which doesn't necessarily give them a chance.

Props for the thread though.

[GTripp0012]

Dirtbag, I just realized that you might be referring to the fact that we are never in sack-happy defensive situations: 4th quarter, multi-score leads. This is true.

But that's as much the fault of the defense as the offense. How about don't let the pathetic Bengals offense into the endzone twice in the first quarter, and then you might have a ten point lead (13-3) in the 4th quarter, and could get in sack happy situations. That's not entirely on the offense.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Just wanted to know what you guys thought was the main reason for the teams pass rushing woes this season. If possible I wouldn't mind seeing a poll. Anyway what do you guys attribute as the main reason for lack of a pass rush?

- The Scheme -Greg Blache is too commited to stoping the run and in turn doesn't give our DE's enough freedom to set up opposing offensive lineman.

- The offense - is preventing us from getting leads big enough that our front four can rarely let loose and unload on opposing offenses. As a result teams are able to keep us honest by using the run since we can't generate a lead big enough for opponents to consider abandoning the ground game.

- The 4-3 - Teams are starting to figure our the 4-3 and everyone knows that the 3-4 is better for getting after the passer in today's NFL.

- The personnel - Either your blaming Taylor and Carter outright or you feel the defense's inability to get a good push up the middle is going a long way towards preventing our DE's from getting to the Quarterback.

- Other - Anything from blaiming the front office to the possibility that space aliens are using graviton beems that fire on our players at the most inconvient moments.

Personally I'm starting to think the offense is to blame.

1) The FO for not paying more attention to the line

2) The personnel-We keep putting the Taylor, Carter and Evans out there and expect different results. Why not give Wilson and Rob Jackson more pass rush chances, what could it hurt?

3) The offense: constant 3 and outs don't help

4) Scheme -Blache doesn't disguise the blitz or the coverage behind it. The great defenses can get pressure without giving up coverage. The show blitz but only send 4, but they make it impossible to figure which 4 are coming pre-snap. Blache basically announces hey everybody WE'RE BLITZING!!!

-And IMO Rocky (who had a horrible game today) is being misused. Rocky should get way more blitzes and pass rush chances instead of putting him out in coverage where he struggles.