King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

[Schneed10]

I'm going to tear my hair out with all these "I'd love Haynesworth, but not for that price!" posts.

THERE IS NO PRICE IF THERE IS NO CAP!!!

Do I need to start an informational thread on the salary cap and why its days are numbered?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm going to tear my hair out with all these "I'd love Haynesworth, but not for that price!" posts.

THERE IS NO PRICE IF THERE IS NO CAP!!!

Do I need to start an informational thread on the salary cap and why its days are numbered?

Don't do anything rash LOL... i think it's hard for folks to believe there won't be a cap again. That's all.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Don't do anything rash LOL... i think it's hard for folks to believe there won't be a cap again. That's all.

i assure you, 2010 will be the only year without a cap. it will be back in 2011, which is why we would be wise to refrain from making any huge signings now.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

i assure you, 2010 will be the only year without a cap. it will be back in 2011, which is why we would be wise to refrain from making any huge signings now.

Ask The Commish.com - Capanomics 101

Basically, through the CBA the parties have realized that the goal of the players and the management should be the same—increasing the revenue pie instead of fighting over the existing amount—and the NFL has tailored the CBA to achieve that end.

The NFLPA was rewarded with the concept of Free Agency, whereby players have the freedom to market their skills after a specific period of service. As a system of checks and balances, the owners sought a means of cutting back on the escalation of the players' salaries. This is accomplished by -- you guessed it -- the NFL Salary Cap.

So if the CBA expires, player salaries will escalate faster though player movement between teams will be more limited. The players, like anyone else, will think with their wallets first. Especially now that Gene Upshaw is gone.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Ask The Commish.com - Capanomics 101



So if the CBA expires, player salaries will escalate faster though player movement between teams will be more limited. The players, like anyone else, will think with their wallets first. Especially now that Gene Upshaw is gone.

I posted about this in another thread and i disagree with you that thats what would happen. No salary cap means no salary floor. So players on low-market teams would be grossly underpaid. Also, considering how bad the economy is, i dont think salaries will continue to escellate as it has been in the past. within a year, both owners and players will work out something new.

If the CBA goes away for good, then sure, sign haynesworth for all i care. its snyders money. Haynesworth is an upgrade to our DL... but we shouldnt expect much out of him. I dont expect him to average more than 13 games a season over the duration of his time here or more than 4 sacks/year. he'll be cut within 4 years.

As for 2009, id rather have Jason Taylor AND chris Canty for my 16M than one Albert haynesworth.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I posted about this in another thread and i disagree with you that thats what would happen. No salary cap means no salary floor. So players on low-market teams would be grossly underpaid. Also, considering how bad the economy is, i dont think salaries will continue to escellate as it has been in the past. within a year, both owners and players will work out something new.

If the CBA goes away for good, then sure, sign haynesworth for all i care. its snyders money. Haynesworth is an upgrade to our DL... but we shouldnt expect much out of him. I dont expect him to average more than 13 games a season over the duration of his time here or more than 4 sacks/year. he'll be cut within 4 years.

As for 2009, id rather have Jason Taylor AND chris Canty for my 16M than one Albert haynesworth.

And I responded to you in that thread and in this one on that very subject, but apparently that response is getting ignored. If you want to debate it seriously, let me know. But start by reading my points.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

And I responded to you in that thread and in this one on that very subject, but apparently that response is getting ignored. If you want to debate it seriously, let me know. But start by reading my points.

I posted because i was specifically interested in your response. I never saw the post and - i'll search for it since i dont remember what thread it was in.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm going to tear my hair out with all these "I'd love Haynesworth, but not for that price!" posts.

THERE IS NO PRICE IF THERE IS NO CAP!!!

Do I need to start an informational thread on the salary cap and why its days are numbered?

Yes. Please explain.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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Yes. Please explain.

Funny, I kinda already have been:

http://www.thewarpath.net/salary-cap...tml#post526728

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post529137

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Funny, I kinda already have been:

http://www.thewarpath.net/salary-cap...tml#post526728

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post529137

Keep leading that horse...

lol

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm going to tear my hair out with all these "I'd love Haynesworth, but not for that price!" posts.

THERE IS NO PRICE IF THERE IS NO CAP!!!

Do I need to start an informational thread on the salary cap and why its days are numbered?

So does that mean you'll be out of a job here? LOL.

On a similar note, pardon my ignorance, but with the possibility of having the end of the cap, what's stopping teams like the Redskins to just coast this next season, and then go nuts during the offseason before the cap-less year begins?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So does that mean you'll be out of a job here? LOL.

On a similar note, pardon my ignorance, but with the possibility of having the end of the cap, what's stopping teams like the Redskins to just coast this next season, and then go nuts during the offseason before the cap-less year begins?

The available free agent pool next year will not be as deep. In the event the salary cap era comes to an end and a CBA is not reached, all drafted players would have to put in 6 years of time with the team that drafted them before they could become an unrestricted free agent.

That's why you don't see the team pushing hard to extend Jason Campbell. It isn't necessarily that they don't believe in him for the long term. It's that they know that if the CBA expires he will NOT be a free agent next season, he will be the exclusive rights property of the 'Skins and they'll have all the leverage to set the price where they want it. Same with Carlos Rogers.

All the players around the league drafted the same year as Campbell and Rogers would experience the same thing. They won't be eligible for free agency. So the player pool will be very slim next season. The Redskins could try to pounce next year if they wished, but they'll find the pickings slim.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The available free agent pool next year will not be as deep. In the event the salary cap era comes to an end and a CBA is not reached, all drafted players would have to put in 6 years of time with the team that drafted them before they could become an unrestricted free agent.

That's why you don't see the team pushing hard to extend Jason Campbell. It isn't necessarily that they don't believe in him for the long term. It's that they know that if the CBA expires he will NOT be a free agent next season, he will be the exclusive rights property of the 'Skins and they'll have all the leverage to set the price where they want it. Same with Carlos Rogers.

All the players around the league drafted the same year as Campbell and Rogers would experience the same thing. They won't be eligible for free agency. So the player pool will be very slim next season. The Redskins could try to pounce next year if they wished, but they'll find the pickings slim.

Thanks Schneed