King predicts Haynesworth to Redskins

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The deadline for tendering Montgomery and Golston is Thursday afternoon. From what I understand both are expected to receive 2nd round tenders (that could change I suppose). But anyway, suppose that happens. And like I said I really haven't heard of any team right now that's interested in Montgomery but at least 5 that are interested in Golston. So it's possible, if not probable, that he could be headed elsewhere and we could get a solid draft pick in return. But with RFA tenders, it has nothing to do with any prearranged trades really. It's not like the Redskins are actively shopping either of these guys around. They just know that it's potentially a win-win for them to give both 2nd round tenders.

Montgomery looks just a little bit out of place in our defense (it's not that he doesn't dominate, it's that his weaknesses sometimes get exposed simply by his positioning). He's a prototype 3-4 nose (although you might want a more consistent player in that position if you are an exclusive 3-4 defense), but is a pretty decent 4-3 nose. Unfortunately, I think that's the position Albert Haynesworth plays in the Tennessee defense.

Montgomery isn't very adaptable within the confines of our defense. Neither is Golston frankly. Both guys are line 'em up over the ball types who can create a lot of havoc against the run (and in Monty's case, the pass as well). If we get Haynesworth, there's no point to bringing them both back. No reason at all.

Either way, Griffin still has the keystone role in the defense, because he's that three technique that is so important in the run fit schemes that Blache plays. I'm sure Haynesworth could play the same position just fine, but he would lose some of his value if we move him off the nose.

I feel like I'm talking as if Haynesworth is already a done deal, which I don't believe at all, but I'm seeing a Haynesworth-Griffin combination next year whcih is 1) very, very good, but also 2) going to block the younger talent we need to develop.

Best case scenario, is that someone in need of a 4-3 nose signs Golston to an offer sheet and we just let him go. Then we get the second rounder back, and actually have gained some pass rushing ability in the whole process. Otherwise, if we get Haynesworth, we have a bench full of starter-quality young talent with no place to get on the field.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If we get Haynesworth, there's no point to bringing them both back. No reason at all.

Haynesworth will miss his usual 2-5 games per year and and so will Griff. If Haynesworth scheduled his time off the same week Griffin was injured, we'd be starting Alexander and calling Boschetti to do his annual un-retirement thing. Its a bit risky letting them both go, but 2nd round picks would be enough for me to accept the risk.

That said, I think Tampa Bay has done enough today to essentially inform the league they plan on signing Haynesworth to the biggest contract in history of football and taking a 35M cap hit in 2009 to do it... and when we play the bucs this year, our interior linemen can thank them giving Haynesworth so much money so that he's no longer motivated to try and knock the living crap out of them.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Haynesworth will miss his usual 2-5 games per year and and so will Griff. If Haynesworth scheduled his time off the same week Griffin was injured, we'd be starting Alexander and calling Boschetti to do his annual un-retirement thing. Its a bit risky letting them both go, but 2nd round picks would be enough for me to accept the risk.

That said, I think Tampa Bay has done enough today to essentially inform the league they plan on signing Haynesworth to the biggest contract in history of football and taking a 35M cap hit in 2009 to do it... and when we play the bucs this year, our interior linemen can thank them giving Haynesworth so much money so that he's no longer motivated to try and knock the living crap out of them.

I wasn't advocating that we would let them both go, but only that if we bring them both back, either 1) one of the two never sees the field, or 2) they both split an amount of playing time that is insignificant.

[Nflnick11]

If haynesworth has any common sense, he'll come here because were not rebuilding like TB, plus if he does sign with TB a year from now he could be asking for a trade or release because TB's gonna suck next year and is rebuilding so he should go to a team that is good and not close to rebuilding (us)

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

If haynesworth has any common sense, he'll come here because were not rebuilding like TB, plus if he does sign with TB a year from now he could be asking for a trade or release because TB's gonna suck next year and is rebuilding so he should go to a team that is good and not close to rebuilding (us)

Woah. Try reading that sentence a few times in a row... I may dream about the word "rebuilding" tonight.

Seriously though, I think Haynesworth just wants a payday. He's looking for $$$ much more than he's looking for a winner.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Woah. Try reading that sentence a few times in a row... I may dream about the word "rebuilding" tonight.

While we are not in a "rebuilding" mode right now the Skins could be rebuilding very soon if some players don't step up, in that case we would be rebuilding our whole team and not just rebuilding our o-line, or maybe rebuilding the secondary if hall smoot and rogers all go away, thank goodness we are not rebuilding yet but rebuilding could start any day.

SWEET DREAMS GM

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

While we are not in a "rebuilding" mode right now the Skins could be rebuilding very soon if some players don't step up, in that case we would be rebuilding our whole team and not just rebuilding our o-line, or maybe rebuilding the secondary if hall smoot and rogers all go away, thank goodness we are not rebuilding yet but rebuilding could start any day.

SWEET DREAMS GM

I think we should be in rebuilding mode cause the players we currently have are not good enough for us to be a SB contending type of team. We should do what TB did IMO.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

While we are not in a "rebuilding" mode right now the Skins could be rebuilding very soon if some players don't step up, in that case we would be rebuilding our whole team and not just rebuilding our o-line, or maybe rebuilding the secondary if hall smoot and rogers all go away, thank goodness we are not rebuilding yet but rebuilding could start any day.

SWEET DREAMS GM

We're not in rebuilding, we're in a building mode. A few more pieces and we're there.