Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn?

GMScud · 03-09-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yes, but there's some talk that he may be let go. He's reportedly doing really well and is ready to go. Just may not end up making the final roster in Minnesota. I don't think they'll let him go until after minicamp at least though.

Wasn't he a starter before his illness? I know they signed Jared Allen, but if Udeze is really doing so well, wouldn't he at least be good enough to make their 53 man? If not, I'm not so sure I'd want him. I'd take him over Wynn though, for sure.

Btw, "Andre Oher," huh? A little indecisive on which O-lineman you want today?

skinsnut · 03-09-2009, 05:20 PM

I've been reading these posts and I see some good points...however...
There is little risk in signing 2 DE's that are ex Starters ...in fact, it is pretty wise.
The only question is...what do they have left.

I truly believe that Daniels is still a starter in this league...he is very underrated and he is stout against the run...which worked quite well the year before he got injured...
His injury essentially cost us a 2nd and 6th round pick last year...that should tell you his value to the Front office...and ya know what?....his performance was WAY better than his replacement....on top of that, he's got an amazing attitude and is great for the locker room...not to mention something to prove...I hope they sign him for 2 years...maybe 3...he's in great shape....

I see Wynn as nothing more than a veteran backup in case Daniels aint ready to go....as well as a backup if Wilson, etc, continue to be situational players only...which at this point....they still are.

Either way, if Daniels is injured...we are kinda screwed for a starter and may need to go back to Taylor or others....or we go with a rookie from the draft with wynn, others by commitee.

To me, the best option is to sign Daniels now..he is quite motivated and we know what he can do...if we go into the draft without signing a starter, we will be forced to draft a DE high, and you know the FO will NEVER do that.

I think Daniels is a classic Redskin, a ton of heart, amazing attitude, very coachable and pretty damn good at stopping the run...sign him!

SmootSmack · 03-09-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Wasn't he a starter before his illness? I know they signed Jared Allen, but if Udeze is really doing so well, wouldn't he at least be good enough to make their 53 man? If not, I'm not so sure I'd want him. I'd take him over Wynn though, for sure.

Btw, "Andre Oher," huh? A little indecisive on which O-lineman you want today?

Everette Tyson Maualuga was too long

DIRTEE · 03-09-2009, 05:51 PM

Might as well bring back Erasmus James, he's gotta be healthy by now.

skinsfan69 · 03-09-2009, 05:57 PM

Daniels is coming off a serious injury, didn't play or practice for a year and is in his mid 30's. Sorry but I really wouldn't count on him to be as an effective run stopper that he once was....and he was never a pass rusher. We need to draft someone or have Jackson step up in the worst way possible.

I was reading NFL.com today and Kyle Vanden Boush was signed as a minumum wage free agent a few years ago by Tenn. Now he's a pro bowl player and a top NFL DE. Maybe we can find someone like him. There are players out there that can play, some just need the chance.

GusFrerotte · 03-09-2009, 06:02 PM

You need at least one veteran D lineman to compliment Haynesworth. Putting all rooks or guys still with water behind the ears might lessen the impact of having Haynesworth. Sign the guys to a one year deal and see what happens. Who knows, maybe the will get beat outright for the starting positions, and this will be a moot issue. Remember this is a make or break year for Zorny and probably JC. I don't think the FO wants to roll the dice with rooks.

Nflnick11 · 03-09-2009, 07:04 PM

Remember defense wins championships...worry about the dline and linebackers in the draft first then Oline second

The Goat · 03-09-2009, 08:09 PM

I'm not surprised there's a fair bit of disagreement about Daniels/Wynn. My take is if we have the cap room it's smart to sign both i.e. as long as it doesn't preclude us from signing help at our other positions of need (OLB and OT). Daniels still brings something to the table: bad-ass run stuffer, fantastic locker room guy, experience. Last year seemed like a freak injury but obviously age is a concern, which is why we need a legit guy to rotate at the position. I believe the only guy currently on the roster who can legitimately handle LDE is Carter, not any of the young inexperienced guys. That's why we sign Wynn too. Then we draft a DE in the 3rd or 5th round... Sidbury would be intriguing. My guess is the drafted guy beats out one among the current youngsters for the final DE spot on the roster... probably Buzbee or Jackson goes because Wilson has shown some flash as a speed-rusher RDE.

... from what others have said Blache really likes Daniels, however Blache is still a professional and clearly he believes a healthy Phillip is better than Evans. I'll trust his judgment. I would also guess Blache knows we're gonna f'ing fly on defense this year, and if Zorn can make something happen on the other side of the ball it could be a special year for the Skins... so maybe he also thinks Daniels deserves to be in on this cuz the guy has given heart and soul to the franchise in good times and bad. Maybe we're seeing loyalty where it's well deserved. Or maybe i'm just being sentimental.

mrreddman · 03-09-2009, 08:38 PM

Im kool with Daniels coming back, because if he is healthy he can be a nice strong veteran run stopper at DE. He can also slide inside if needed due to injuries inside. No problems at all bringing him back BUT Wynn???????.. Please!!!.. gimme a break, nice guy and all but he brings NOTHING to the table besides perhaps knowing our defense. He is a bit too small to be effective inside and too slow to rush the passer outside! Why waste our time with him? I would MUCH rather just give the time to Jackson, Buzbee, and/or Wilson and see what they can do....rather than resign Wynn..... Id rather sign La

Lotus · 03-10-2009, 12:21 AM

Neither Daniels nor Wynn represent the quality which is desired. Both are serviceable at best.

But there are too many holes in the roster. RT for one. SLB for another. DE for sure. Depth almost everywhere would be good, too.

Given this situation, and the fact that the team has only 4 draft picks (only 5 even in a trade-down), warm bodies of even mediocre quality are needed. Given the pickings left at RT and SLB, getting Daniels and/or Wynn, and seeing who performs in camp, is a good idea.

Sadly there are too many holes and not enough draft picks to fill 'em. Gotta make the best of a grim situation.

Skins4L · 03-10-2009, 03:31 AM

Im sure one of them could be useful if were looking for some veteran depth... but neither should/could be projected to start if they were signed.

tryfuhl · 03-10-2009, 04:21 AM

this may be the position we have to hold at until next year.. who knows, maybe they figure with haynesworth and the rest of the line we'll be good enough

tryfuhl · 03-10-2009, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Like it or not you can't have young studs at every position on the team. Daniels and Wynn are clearly stop gaps and they should do fine in that role.

I think that that's what people fail to see here.. no team has superstars at every position.

tryfuhl · 03-10-2009, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Remember defense wins championships...worry about the dline and linebackers in the draft first then Oline second

we have a championship caliber defense for the most part champ

ibleedburgandy · 03-10-2009, 10:55 AM

The writing is on the wall and why some of us can't see it is really hard to believe. If Daniels and Wynn are picked up it's probably due to the fact Wilson, Jackson & Buzzbee aren't stout against the run yet the FO still wants to develope/use one or two of the three in pass rush situations. If the move is made to bring both on then I don't see the FO addressing the DE position at all in the draft! They'll either go RT or LB (play maker all of you have been asking for) in the first! If they can trade down and pick up a second then there is a possibility that all three positions will be addressed; however, trades are hard to pull off! I like the move to bring both at a vet min! No matter which DE is in there, AH makes them better. Lets get a difference maker at LB to complement AH or another bookend RT to complement the whole damn offense!

View Poll Results: Which Over 30 Veteran Should We Re-Sign?
Phillip Daniels	88	44.44%
Pete Kendall	62	31.31%
Juan Epstein	13	6.57%
Renaldo Wynn	5	2.53%
None of the Above	30	15.15%
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03-09-2009, 05:20 PM	#32
skinsnut Playmaker Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,060	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? I've been reading these posts and I see some good points...however... There is little risk in signing 2 DE's that are ex Starters ...in fact, it is pretty wise. The only question is...what do they have left. I truly believe that Daniels is still a starter in this league...he is very underrated and he is stout against the run...which worked quite well the year before he got injured... His injury essentially cost us a 2nd and 6th round pick last year...that should tell you his value to the Front office...and ya know what?....his performance was WAY better than his replacement....on top of that, he's got an amazing attitude and is great for the locker room...not to mention something to prove...I hope they sign him for 2 years...maybe 3...he's in great shape.... I see Wynn as nothing more than a veteran backup in case Daniels aint ready to go....as well as a backup if Wilson, etc, continue to be situational players only...which at this point....they still are. Either way, if Daniels is injured...we are kinda screwed for a starter and may need to go back to Taylor or others....or we go with a rookie from the draft with wynn, others by commitee. To me, the best option is to sign Daniels now..he is quite motivated and we know what he can do...if we go into the draft without signing a starter, we will be forced to draft a DE high, and you know the FO will NEVER do that. I think Daniels is a classic Redskin, a ton of heart, amazing attitude, very coachable and pretty damn good at stopping the run...sign him! __________________ I hate Dallas...Period

03-09-2009, 05:51 PM	#34
DIRTEE Special Teams Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 256	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? Might as well bring back Erasmus James, he's gotta be healthy by now.

03-09-2009, 05:57 PM	#35
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,591	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? Daniels is coming off a serious injury, didn't play or practice for a year and is in his mid 30's. Sorry but I really wouldn't count on him to be as an effective run stopper that he once was....and he was never a pass rusher. We need to draft someone or have Jackson step up in the worst way possible. I was reading NFL.com today and Kyle Vanden Boush was signed as a minumum wage free agent a few years ago by Tenn. Now he's a pro bowl player and a top NFL DE. Maybe we can find someone like him. There are players out there that can play, some just need the chance.

03-09-2009, 06:02 PM	#36
GusFrerotte Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Detroit area Posts: 4,153	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? You need at least one veteran D lineman to compliment Haynesworth. Putting all rooks or guys still with water behind the ears might lessen the impact of having Haynesworth. Sign the guys to a one year deal and see what happens. Who knows, maybe the will get beat outright for the starting positions, and this will be a moot issue. Remember this is a make or break year for Zorny and probably JC. I don't think the FO wants to roll the dice with rooks.

03-09-2009, 07:04 PM	#37
Nflnick11 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 432	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? Remember defense wins championships...worry about the dline and linebackers in the draft first then Oline second

03-09-2009, 08:09 PM	#38
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? I'm not surprised there's a fair bit of disagreement about Daniels/Wynn. My take is if we have the cap room it's smart to sign both i.e. as long as it doesn't preclude us from signing help at our other positions of need (OLB and OT). Daniels still brings something to the table: bad-ass run stuffer, fantastic locker room guy, experience. Last year seemed like a freak injury but obviously age is a concern, which is why we need a legit guy to rotate at the position. I believe the only guy currently on the roster who can legitimately handle LDE is Carter, not any of the young inexperienced guys. That's why we sign Wynn too. Then we draft a DE in the 3rd or 5th round... Sidbury would be intriguing. My guess is the drafted guy beats out one among the current youngsters for the final DE spot on the roster... probably Buzbee or Jackson goes because Wilson has shown some flash as a speed-rusher RDE. ... from what others have said Blache really likes Daniels, however Blache is still a professional and clearly he believes a healthy Phillip is better than Evans. I'll trust his judgment. I would also guess Blache knows we're gonna f'ing fly on defense this year, and if Zorn can make something happen on the other side of the ball it could be a special year for the Skins... so maybe he also thinks Daniels deserves to be in on this cuz the guy has given heart and soul to the franchise in good times and bad. Maybe we're seeing loyalty where it's well deserved. Or maybe i'm just being sentimental. __________________ 24-34

03-09-2009, 08:38 PM	#39
mrreddman Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: alexandria va Posts: 143	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? Im kool with Daniels coming back, because if he is healthy he can be a nice strong veteran run stopper at DE. He can also slide inside if needed due to injuries inside. No problems at all bringing him back BUT Wynn???????.. Please!!!.. gimme a break, nice guy and all but he brings NOTHING to the table besides perhaps knowing our defense. He is a bit too small to be effective inside and too slow to rush the passer outside! Why waste our time with him? I would MUCH rather just give the time to Jackson, Buzbee, and/or Wilson and see what they can do....rather than resign Wynn..... Id rather sign La

03-10-2009, 12:21 AM	#40
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? Neither Daniels nor Wynn represent the quality which is desired. Both are serviceable at best. But there are too many holes in the roster. RT for one. SLB for another. DE for sure. Depth almost everywhere would be good, too. Given this situation, and the fact that the team has only 4 draft picks (only 5 even in a trade-down), warm bodies of even mediocre quality are needed. Given the pickings left at RT and SLB, getting Daniels and/or Wynn, and seeing who performs in camp, is a good idea. Sadly there are too many holes and not enough draft picks to fill 'em. Gotta make the best of a grim situation. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

03-10-2009, 03:31 AM	#41
Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 886	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? Im sure one of them could be useful if were looking for some veteran depth... but neither should/could be projected to start if they were signed. __________________ ALL HAIL

03-10-2009, 04:21 AM	#42
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 42 Posts: 12,514	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? this may be the position we have to hold at until next year.. who knows, maybe they figure with haynesworth and the rest of the line we'll be good enough

03-10-2009, 10:55 AM	#45
ibleedburgandy Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 17	Re: Redskins may sign Daniels and Wynn? The writing is on the wall and why some of us can't see it is really hard to believe. If Daniels and Wynn are picked up it's probably due to the fact Wilson, Jackson & Buzzbee aren't stout against the run yet the FO still wants to develope/use one or two of the three in pass rush situations. If the move is made to bring both on then I don't see the FO addressing the DE position at all in the draft! They'll either go RT or LB (play maker all of you have been asking for) in the first! If they can trade down and pick up a second then there is a possibility that all three positions will be addressed; however, trades are hard to pull off! I like the move to bring both at a vet min! No matter which DE is in there, AH makes them better. Lets get a difference maker at LB to complement AH or another bookend RT to complement the whole damn offense! __________________ Nukes...if that don't kill it then god don't want it dead!

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