Biggest Offseason Priority

Defensewins · 12-08-2004, 11:50 AM

Retaining Greg Williams #1.
Jim Fassel? He should go under the same category as Spurrier and Norv Turner. Great coordinators but not a good head coach. Spurrier, Turner and Fassel do not have the leadership skills to keep today's players in line. They are too nice.
Weiss and Crunnel on the other hand have not had a chance to prove if they got it or not. I hate to mention it, but I think one of those guys is an african american, so his chances are less that he will become a head coach. I wish that was not the case for African American coaches, but it is the truth. Black coaches do not get the same opportunities for promotion in college and pro football.

skinsguy · 12-08-2004, 11:59 AM

The biggest difference with Fassel is he did at least get the Giants into the Super Bowl as head coach. Unfortunately, after that year the Giants were not consistant.

Turner might have been a different story after the '99 season if it wasn't for the deep pockets of Synder, of course now its would've could've should've.

Spurrier might have eventually figured it out, but I think the NFL required a little more dedication than what he was willing to put in.

heybigstar · 12-08-2004, 12:19 PM

I read in the post this morning that Antonio Pierce said "I want to come back, but you never know how much they want you until the dollar signs come." As great as he has been this season, i dont want him demanding a huge contract or only taking the biggest contract thats offered to him as criteria for signing.....

VTSkins897 · 12-08-2004, 12:19 PM

def keep williams but hopefully he'll wanna stick around for a few yrs b4 attempting a 2nd stint as HC. some ppl are just better coords than HCs. like dude said about lebeau. also i agree with everything r-fan said. get smoot, a center, and if not a superstar on the DL, at least some decent depth. hard to complain about our top defense. also i agree that in time the 'skins offense will click, much like it did vs. NYG. go skins!

and go hokies for winnin' the ACC in their first year!
w00t!

MTK · 12-08-2004, 12:51 PM

I don't see Fassel as a hot head coach prospect this year.

He didn't receive much interest last year and I don't see what's changed to make his stock go up any.

diehardskin2982 · 12-08-2004, 01:34 PM

We will retain Greg Williams so thats not an issue, he gets paid more than alot of head coaches out there, and he is happy in the position he in. Greg want to inherit the team after Gibbs departure so he's not going anywhere.

I picked a Run blocking center, maybe that guy from Michigan they talked about on sports center. But if we could get our o-line together we would be a force in the NFL, we have the talent in all the skill positions we just need the grunt workers up front to put it all together

jdlea · 12-08-2004, 02:32 PM

I don't think Williams is going anywhere so I voted for Smoot. However, it seems like whoever the Skins put at corner, other than Ade Jimoh, plays well. I mean, look at Champ, he's not even that good in Denver. I think while people are making all of their comments about Portis being a "system back" how about somebody mention that Champ could have been a "system corner" because now he's a chump. He's Charles Woodson from a few years ago when he couldn't cover anyone.

So, I say that they need to rework Samuels deal and keep him. I know a lot of you don't think the line is any good, but Samuels is one of the best tackles in the league still. I don't think shaking up the offensive line again is the best idea this offseason. Maybe a center, but I think that's secondary. They need to get Jansen back and they'll be fine.

The Skins really need to get a good pass rusher. They shouldn't get him out of free agency. I think they definitely need to do it in the draft. The main reason I don't want to see Samuels or Smoot go is because they will use their draft pick to get a replacement for whichever one leaves town. I hope the Skins don't overhaul this team again, they are pretty close to having a good enough team next year. The only wholesale change that should be made is at defensive end.

skinsguy · 12-08-2004, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VTSkins897

and go hokies for winnin' the ACC in their first year!
w00t!

YES!!!! Go Hokies! I was lucky enough to attend a couple games this year.

bedlamVR · 12-08-2004, 03:24 PM

I think Samuels will renegociate or name the team he wants to be traded to because next year is his fianl contract year and he has a huge cap number a decision will be made this year about his future . That said I would want to keep him with Jansen back with Dokerty and Thomas at Guard we would have some much needed consistancy and hopefully an O line that live up to its billing.

I don't think Williams will be walking this year, only the Seahawks looks like an opportunity but that is not certian to come up. The deal in Miami is a mess, same in cleavland and he is only a year removed from the Bills disaster where he constantly put up great numbers defensivly but was still run out of town.

sportscurmudgeon · 12-08-2004, 10:44 PM

Sorry folks, but I voted "Other".

Because the reality of life is that the Skins need to do ALL of these things at the same time - - or else. And doing all of this will not be easy given that there will have to be a "splashy signing" in the free agent market mixed in here too...

Redskins_P · 12-16-2004, 10:45 AM

Looks like Pierce has become the first priority...

http://washtimes.com/sports/20041216-120606-9560r.htm

MTK · 12-16-2004, 11:14 AM

Definitey good to hear about Pierce, I think he's one of those core guys Gibbs is always talking about.

Skins fan 44 · 12-16-2004, 12:06 PM

I voted to retain Williams, even though he wont go anywhere, if he left he would be our biggest loss. He practically seen him make water in to wine with our defense and we are not even close to being 100% healthy there. I dont think he is going anywhere though, he has it made here, not much pressure, a good paying job and a chance to take over as HC within a few years or so. Know one is for sure how long Coach Gibbs will stay. After that the needs would have to be on the O-Line.

View Poll Results: What is the 'Skins' biggest offseason priority?
Retaining Gregg Williams	46	65.71%
Re-Signing Smoot	17	24.29%
Re-Signing Pierce	0	0%
Signing a run-blocking center	2	2.86%
Signing a pass-rushing DE	3	4.29%
Other	2	2.86%
Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll

12-08-2004, 12:19 PM	#18
heybigstar Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 375	I read in the post this morning that Antonio Pierce said "I want to come back, but you never know how much they want you until the dollar signs come." As great as he has been this season, i dont want him demanding a huge contract or only taking the biggest contract thats offered to him as criteria for signing..... __________________ Hail to the Redskins.

12-08-2004, 01:34 PM	#21
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	We will retain Greg Williams so thats not an issue, he gets paid more than alot of head coaches out there, and he is happy in the position he in. Greg want to inherit the team after Gibbs departure so he's not going anywhere. I picked a Run blocking center, maybe that guy from Michigan they talked about on sports center. But if we could get our o-line together we would be a force in the NFL, we have the talent in all the skill positions we just need the grunt workers up front to put it all together __________________ That got ugly fast

12-08-2004, 10:44 PM	#25
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Sorry folks, but I voted "Other". Because the reality of life is that the Skins need to do ALL of these things at the same time - - or else. And doing all of this will not be easy given that there will have to be a "splashy signing" in the free agent market mixed in here too... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

12-16-2004, 12:06 PM	#28
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	I voted to retain Williams, even though he wont go anywhere, if he left he would be our biggest loss. He practically seen him make water in to wine with our defense and we are not even close to being 100% healthy there. I dont think he is going anywhere though, he has it made here, not much pressure, a good paying job and a chance to take over as HC within a few years or so. Know one is for sure how long Coach Gibbs will stay. After that the needs would have to be on the O-Line. __________________ HTTR!

12-08-2004, 11:50 AM	#16
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Retaining Greg Williams #1. Jim Fassel? He should go under the same category as Spurrier and Norv Turner. Great coordinators but not a good head coach. Spurrier, Turner and Fassel do not have the leadership skills to keep today's players in line. They are too nice. Weiss and Crunnel on the other hand have not had a chance to prove if they got it or not. I hate to mention it, but I think one of those guys is an african american, so his chances are less that he will become a head coach. I wish that was not the case for African American coaches, but it is the truth. Black coaches do not get the same opportunities for promotion in college and pro football.

12-08-2004, 11:59 AM	#17
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	The biggest difference with Fassel is he did at least get the Giants into the Super Bowl as head coach. Unfortunately, after that year the Giants were not consistant. Turner might have been a different story after the '99 season if it wasn't for the deep pockets of Synder, of course now its would've could've should've. Spurrier might have eventually figured it out, but I think the NFL required a little more dedication than what he was willing to put in.

12-08-2004, 12:19 PM	#19
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 890	def keep williams but hopefully he'll wanna stick around for a few yrs b4 attempting a 2nd stint as HC. some ppl are just better coords than HCs. like dude said about lebeau. also i agree with everything r-fan said. get smoot, a center, and if not a superstar on the DL, at least some decent depth. hard to complain about our top defense. also i agree that in time the 'skins offense will click, much like it did vs. NYG. go skins! and go hokies for winnin' the ACC in their first year! w00t!

12-08-2004, 12:51 PM	#20
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	I don't see Fassel as a hot head coach prospect this year. He didn't receive much interest last year and I don't see what's changed to make his stock go up any.

12-08-2004, 02:32 PM	#22
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	I don't think Williams is going anywhere so I voted for Smoot. However, it seems like whoever the Skins put at corner, other than Ade Jimoh, plays well. I mean, look at Champ, he's not even that good in Denver. I think while people are making all of their comments about Portis being a "system back" how about somebody mention that Champ could have been a "system corner" because now he's a chump. He's Charles Woodson from a few years ago when he couldn't cover anyone. So, I say that they need to rework Samuels deal and keep him. I know a lot of you don't think the line is any good, but Samuels is one of the best tackles in the league still. I don't think shaking up the offensive line again is the best idea this offseason. Maybe a center, but I think that's secondary. They need to get Jansen back and they'll be fine. The Skins really need to get a good pass rusher. They shouldn't get him out of free agency. I think they definitely need to do it in the draft. The main reason I don't want to see Samuels or Smoot go is because they will use their draft pick to get a replacement for whichever one leaves town. I hope the Skins don't overhaul this team again, they are pretty close to having a good enough team next year. The only wholesale change that should be made is at defensive end.

12-08-2004, 03:24 PM	#24
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	I think Samuels will renegociate or name the team he wants to be traded to because next year is his fianl contract year and he has a huge cap number a decision will be made this year about his future . That said I would want to keep him with Jansen back with Dokerty and Thomas at Guard we would have some much needed consistancy and hopefully an O line that live up to its billing. I don't think Williams will be walking this year, only the Seahawks looks like an opportunity but that is not certian to come up. The deal in Miami is a mess, same in cleavland and he is only a year removed from the Bills disaster where he constantly put up great numbers defensivly but was still run out of town.

12-16-2004, 10:45 AM	#26
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Looks like Pierce has become the first priority... http://washtimes.com/sports/20041216-120606-9560r.htm

12-16-2004, 11:14 AM	#27
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Definitey good to hear about Pierce, I think he's one of those core guys Gibbs is always talking about.

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