Leroy Hill A Free Agent!!

vallin21 · 04-27-2009, 10:12 PM

We should make a real push to sign him, especially since we have enough cap room. Blades is nothing more than a backup, while Thomas has been injury prone. If we got Hill, we would arguably have one of the best defenses in the league.

T.O.Killa · 04-27-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by vallin21

We should make a real push to sign him, especially since we have enough cap room. Blades is nothing more than a backup, while Thomas has been injury prone. If we got Hill, we would arguably have one of the best defenses in the league.

Blades is an absolute beast. He is our air apparent to Fletcher. The problem is that him and Fletcher dont go well together because of size.

Superman13732 · 04-27-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vallin21

We should make a real push to sign him, especially since we have enough cap room. Blades is nothing more than a backup, while Thomas has been injury prone. If we got Hill, we would arguably have one of the best defenses in the league.

Lotus landed this one right on the money, and he said it right before your post, ill throw it out there again:

"Even if that is true, Hill wants more than $6 mil. a year. That would leave less than $2.9 mil. in the most optimistic scenario. And we still need to sign Orakpo, who as a first rounder will not be cheap. And everyone and their brother wants us to sign an OT. Can we really sign Orakpo, the rest of the rookies, and a FA OT for less than $2.9 mil.? That seems unlikely, especially given that the $2.9 mil. number was already optimistic.

It seems to me that to have a hope we'd have to do serious cutting, not just cosmetic cutting, elsewhere. We'd have to give up big names, not just someone like Thrash." - Lotus

mrreddman · 04-27-2009, 10:48 PM

Well I don't think Hill is gonna get exactly what he is asking for. He was arrested not long ago and just released after the draft. It's not like he has a lot of leverage. I would still try to make a run at him for a reasonable offer.

Superman13732 · 04-27-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mrreddman

Well I don't think Hill is gonna get exactly what he is asking for. He was arrested not long ago and just released after the draft. It's not like he has a lot of leverage. I would still try to make a run at him for a reasonable offer.

Unfortunately i heard there were multiple teams courting him already. But if we can get him, AND have enough to make all of the other moves we need to, then hell yes we should do it!

mrreddman · 04-27-2009, 11:06 PM

Yeah I heard that too, but at that price? I would do it though. I just think the move would be a HUGE asset for the skins.

SFREDSKIN · 04-27-2009, 11:18 PM

Him and Albert Haynesworth have something in common, neither has played a full 16 game season. He's on the smallish side and scouts worry that he wears out towards the end of the game due to his aggressive style.

Linebacker Leroy Hill an intriguing, but risky, free agent possibility for Lions - Detroit Lions: News, Blogs, Photos, Audio, Schedule & Stats - MLive.com

mrreddman · 04-27-2009, 11:29 PM

He is still a lot better than any options currently on our roster, that's for sure. And he can't be any worse than MW last year. Not many players make it through a full 17 game schedule anymore but if your concerned about that... rotate Blades in at all 3 backup LB's spot during the game unless Wilson or one of these rookies step up.?
All players a some kind of gamble these days...

Pocket$ $traight · 04-28-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DoggDayAfternoon

LB is a position we should've looked at more seriously through the draft.

They had 6 picks and took two LBs and there is talk that Orakpo is going to try LB out. Should they have taken more?

RedskinPete · 04-28-2009, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Even if that is true, Hill wants more than $6 mil. a year. That would leave less than $2.9 mil. in the most optimistic scenario. And we still need to sign Orakpo, who as a first rounder will not be cheap. And everyone and their brother wants us to sign an OT. Can we really sign Orakpo, the rest of the rookies, and a FA OT for less than $2.9 mil.? That seems unlikely, especially given that the $2.9 mil. number was already optimistic.

It seems to me that to have a hope we'd have to do serious cutting, not just cosmetic cutting, elsewhere. We'd have to give up big names, not just someone like Thrash.

We have to get him[Hill signed] this would be big for us. Now yes the cap is full but next year looks to be not a cap year right? So back load it with a big amount coming next season. The numbers can be moved around to get him in if Danny wants him. But it looks like Vinny is happy with the LB's he has so I don't think we will get Hill. Tell you something Hill has way more up side then J.Taylor had and we broke this years draft for him. Hill may cost us some of Dannys S money but Hill is better then most of our LB on the roster now[Fletcher and Mcintosh is really all we have]. I sure love to see Hill[6-1 235], Fletcher[5-10 245] and Mcintosh[6-2 233] as our LB's! I guess I can dream!

RedskinPete · 04-28-2009, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

They had 6 picks and took two LBs and there is talk that Orakpo is going to try LB out. Should they have taken more?

I think Orakpo is going to have his hands full just playing DE and learning to stop the run against the NFC east RB's! Maybe down the road LB but that asking a little to much from a first year player to cover RB's and TE's in the NFL right out of the gate!

The Goat · 04-28-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RedskinPete

I think Orakpo is going to have his hands full just playing DE and learning to stop the run against the NFC east RB's! Maybe down the road LB but that asking a little to much from a first year player to cover RB's and TE's in the NFL right out of the gate!

Swinging Rak to LB would just increase his bust risk IMHO...it's not smart to throw a ton at a rookie. Keep his hand in the dirt all year...like GT said probably at RDE but if Rak can bulk up a bit and become for stout against the run I want to see him at LDE.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-28-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Swinging Rak to LB would just increase his bust risk IMHO...it's not smart to throw a ton at a rookie. Keep his hand in the dirt all year...like GT said probably at RDE but if Rak can bulk up a bit and become for stout against the run I want to see him at LDE.

Exactly. As a rookie, we should only ask him to play one position, and at this time, that postion should be DE.

Lotus · 04-28-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Swinging Rak to LB would just increase his bust risk IMHO...it's not smart to throw a ton at a rookie. Keep his hand in the dirt all year...like GT said probably at RDE but if Rak can bulk up a bit and become for stout against the run I want to see him at LDE.

Right on Goat.

vallin21 · 04-28-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Blades is an absolute beast. He is our air apparent to Fletcher. The problem is that him and Fletcher dont go well together because of size.

Exactly, Blades is not an OLB. He is and will be the replacement for Flecther at MLB, and when he plays MLB he's a beast. Would you agree we need to sign some vet FA (Hill, Foote) to come in and compete for the SAM spot?

04-27-2009, 10:12 PM	#61
vallin21 The Starter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,198	Re: Leroy Hill A Free Agent!! We should make a real push to sign him, especially since we have enough cap room. Blades is nothing more than a backup, while Thomas has been injury prone. If we got Hill, we would arguably have one of the best defenses in the league.

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mrreddman Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: alexandria va Posts: 143	Re: Leroy Hill A Free Agent!! Well I don't think Hill is gonna get exactly what he is asking for. He was arrested not long ago and just released after the draft. It's not like he has a lot of leverage. I would still try to make a run at him for a reasonable offer.

04-27-2009, 11:06 PM	#66
mrreddman Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: alexandria va Posts: 143	Re: Leroy Hill A Free Agent!! Yeah I heard that too, but at that price? I would do it though. I just think the move would be a HUGE asset for the skins.

04-27-2009, 11:18 PM	#67
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Leroy Hill A Free Agent!! Him and Albert Haynesworth have something in common, neither has played a full 16 game season. He's on the smallish side and scouts worry that he wears out towards the end of the game due to his aggressive style. Linebacker Leroy Hill an intriguing, but risky, free agent possibility for Lions - Detroit Lions: News, Blogs, Photos, Audio, Schedule & Stats - MLive.com __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

04-27-2009, 11:29 PM	#68
mrreddman Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: alexandria va Posts: 143	Re: Leroy Hill A Free Agent!! He is still a lot better than any options currently on our roster, that's for sure. And he can't be any worse than MW last year. Not many players make it through a full 17 game schedule anymore but if your concerned about that... rotate Blades in at all 3 backup LB's spot during the game unless Wilson or one of these rookies step up.? All players a some kind of gamble these days...

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