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Old 05-02-2009, 08:57 PM   #1
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Re: RI: Skins Looking at Veteran Offensive Linemen

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I hope we get an additional starter somewhere along the line, but before we go breaking out lifeboats, can we remember that we have some young talent who are being called upon to step up. For all those who wrung their hands at us not taking Meredith or another OT in the later rounds, do we really expect that they would come in and suddenly be the answer. I don't. I think they will need a year or two under their belt before they reach that point. That by the way is what Rinehart, Clark, and Heyer now have. So why shouldn't we be counting on them to be " the guys", at the least for the back up positions.

I would also remind you that Kendall came from the Jets in July/August time frame. So that year we would not have had him in mini camp either.

Finally, if our line absolutely needs better talent, than that is on Bugel and Zorn to make their case to the FO, comments from Buges that Rabach is the best Center, are going to lessen the OL need in the eyes of the FO, not heighten it.

For those who preach that Snyder needs to get out of the way of his football people, you should joyful that we did not get OL in the draft, because according to the coaches we have got good talented youth. Unless you don't trust our "football people" either.
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Is it possible that Buges is too loyal to his guys? Further, is it possible that our troubles with developing young linemen have to do with the fact that Buges is too old and the game has passed him by? In sum, is it possible that Buges is holding us back from creating the kind of front line that we need because he is living too much in the past and not enough in the future?
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:20 PM   #2
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Is it possible that Buges is too loyal to his guys? Further, is it possible that our troubles with developing young linemen have to do with the fact that Buges is too old and the game has passed him by? In sum, is it possible that Buges is holding us back from creating the kind of front line that we need because he is living too much in the past and not enough in the future?
Its not always the X's and O's, but the Jimmy's and Joe's. The line is not exactly full of all pro's or under achievers. They are undersized and under skilled.
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Old 05-02-2009, 10:27 PM   #3
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Is it possible that Buges is too loyal to his guys? Further, is it possible that our troubles with developing young linemen have to do with the fact that Buges is too old and the game has passed him by? In sum, is it possible that Buges is holding us back from creating the kind of front line that we need because he is living too much in the past and not enough in the future?
I was wondering about this myself. Wasn't Buges singing praises of Rabach during an interview not that long ago? I'm wondering if he's telling the FO that his line is ok. Otherwise maybe we would have taken Oher at #13.
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Old 05-02-2009, 10:58 PM   #4
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I was wondering about this myself. Wasn't Buges singing praises of Rabach during an interview not that long ago? I'm wondering if he's telling the FO that his line is ok. Otherwise maybe we would have taken Oher at #13.
Redskins Insider: Offseason Moves About to Start - washingtonpost.com

In this article that was published at the end of last season says that during a season ending meeting Buges was brutally honest about his O-line collapse.
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Old 05-02-2009, 11:56 PM   #5
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Redskins Insider: Offseason Moves About to Start - washingtonpost.com

In this article that was published at the end of last season says that during a season ending meeting Buges was brutally honest about his O-line collapse.
It also says Buges has been privately criticized by some in the organization for being too loyal to veterans in the past. I could see how this could happen with Buges being so close to his guys and the personal tragedy he went through last year. These guys are like a family to him and like a team within a team. Sometimes when you become too close to a situation things have to be made obvious before you see them. Having said that, Buges is a great coach and if he has made mistakes I feel confident he'll correct them. He's loyal, but he's not stupid.
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Old 05-02-2009, 11:20 PM   #6
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Is it possible that Buges is too loyal to his guys? Further, is it possible that our troubles with developing young linemen have to do with the fact that Buges is too old and the game has passed him by? In sum, is it possible that Buges is holding us back from creating the kind of front line that we need because he is living too much in the past and not enough in the future?
I don't think any of this is very far off the mark...but i also think the FO must be complicit somehow to continually put off serious new investment into the o-line. Dock was a gift...he's not gonna fix anything to his right though.
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