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Living Legend
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Re: HOF Candidates
Honest question: should LaDainian Tomlinson be a hall of famer? How about Champ Bailey?
That, to me, is the big question of our era. Obviously, Manning and Brady are easy, along with Brett Favre, Derrick Brooks, Marvin Harrison, Tony Gonzalez and Michael Strahan. But there's other players who should be hall of famers who you simply couldn't put in if you limit the honor to only the best players ever. Do you draw the line at those 5 time pro bowlers? Or do they get in too?
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Re: HOF Candidates
I still think Jake Scott should have gone in years ago. Along with the all pro awards we still remember SB VII where he was the MVP.
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It all comes down to where you draw the line. By Irish's definition, neither Tomlinson nor Bailey makes the Hall. I would put both of them in, because I don't think the Hall should exclude great players regardless of the circumstances. The only argument I would use against Hall canidacy is that player 'x' was not a "great" player. Like Jim Plunkett. He was not a great player, though he has an argument for the hall based on four years in the early 80's.
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I guess I don't know if I'd consider Champ as the premier player at his position for an extended period of time. Early in his career as a Redskin and his first year in Denver-yes, I'd agree but his last season here teams threw at him with no fear. Outside of his first season in Denver teams have gone at him as well. For most of his career you could name a few CB that you would put above or on the same level as him (C. Woodson, Asomugha, Ronde Barber, Clements). He's in the discussion, no doubt, but I just don't know if I consider Champ a Hall of Fame player.
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Which, I think, is what the argument for Champ relies on. He was good in 2000 when Troy Vincent was the premier CB in the NFL, and he was just as good in 2006, when Nnamdi Asomugha was the premier CB. Charles Woodson though has an intriguing hall of fame case, because there was a four year period in the middle of his career where nobody really knew his whereabouts (it was the Raiders training room). But he's a 5 time pro bowler these days, and that could reach 6 or 7, in which case, if he strings togethether elite apperances in 2009 and 2010 as a veteran, I'd say yes, Woodson is a hall of famer.
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That's the problem I have with Kurt Warner, is he a Hall of Famer? He wasn't great for a sustainable period of time but if you look at the past 10 years he's in the conversation with Manning, Brady in terms of accomplishments (4 playoff appearances, 3 Super Bowl) and has put up some serious numbers. I'd put him in the conversation for QB of the decade behind Manning and Brady but ahead of McNabb and Big Ben.
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