Obama Care

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Originally Posted by saden1

If you want to play armchair budgeteer that's cool but don't act like the heath care isn't as much of an issue as the budget deficit and national debt. In my view we have a bigger problem at hand than the national debt. Further more I'm not even convinced your comprehend what discretionary spending is. I mean, if we bring our troops home as you suggested we would save all of that 799 billion. The issue of course is you don't think that's practical nor do you think universal health care to be practical. What Obama is doing is no different than what Ronald Reagan did and we turned quite alright. With respect to universal health care Obama is trying to save money in as many places as he and we'll see what comes of it. It's simply too early to declare failure on the whole matter.

As for future generations, if they can manage to bring down their budget deficit or don't create one of their own they'll be alright. in 20 years the GDP is expected to double and so is government revenue. That is to say your concerns are without merit and even more so due to your antipathy towards government funded social services.

p.s. If people really are concerned about the wellbeing of future generations they aught to support reduction of our greenhouse output.

I can see why you don't respond to my budget number questions, because you clearly can't manage simple math. First, I did not suggest bringing the troops home - ever, I suggested reducing the Army to 1/3 it's size, and keeping the AF/Navy. Further you have equipment and Reserves costs that would be included. That does not get rid of 799Billion, in fact reducing it by 50% would be hard, but it could be done (and in my opinion should be).

Second, to suggest that in a nation where upwards of 80% have medical care that healthcare is more important than the national debt gives the appearance of being uninformed as to the consequences of debt on the national economy.

I can accept that Universal Healthcare is a goal we could strive for. I used real math and real thoughts on ways to accomplish it. I think reducing our military drastically is possible, practical, and truly essential to our country's future. I think that reducing the debt, or atleast preventing its growth is as vital to our country's future. I think that healthcare for all, is a noble goal, and maybe can be reached, but it will not determine our country's future nearly as much as the other 2.

How can you put it on future generations to balance their budget and bring down debt that we are aquiring for them, when you won't even acknowledge the need for this generation to bring ours down, or not create one. that is very hypocritical of you.

Can you tell me where Obama is trying to save money? Although I haven't looked at the budget, I would wager you that every government program will see at least a cola adjustment, and many will see much more than that.

I don't have an antipathy towards government funded social services, but I do see them as a safety net, and that the goal should be self suffiency, not government dependency. I think medicare, medicaid, and social security have a function within our government as it is now established.

Finally, I fully expect GDP to double, Revenue to double, etc, but if spending outpaces revenue every year, as it does now, then you can believe government spending will also double. again, simple math which you either don't realize, or choose to ignore, my guess is the latter.