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Old 09-20-2009, 10:10 PM   #646
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Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread

It is easy as fans/armchair quarterbakcs to say what we should have done or should not have done. However when you are in the trenches living through each play and moment it is a different ballgame for sure.
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:46 PM   #647
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I still have the same problem with JC. I can't remember a time when he got a pass over an off-line defender and to a receiver...especially in stride. He missed it on the first play. He missed it out of bounds on the sideline on another play. He's good when it's a laser, but not when it's touch. How many times can we remember that he missed an open receiver deep...and who can remember when he hit?
Now, the type of pass needed in the red zone is over a defender unless you can split a seam. But for JC I think this is a low-percentage play. That's why they don't throw a fade in the corner of the endzone. That's also the kind of pass play needed for bombs. The lack of that particular technique for JC is the reason why the WRs exploded when Collins came in several years ago. While he has a noodle arm, he is better at this kind of pass. This is also the reason that Moss has never succeeded with Jason Campbell: the routes he runs requires a QB that can deliver the ball over the top with reasonably consistent accuracy (and time to adjust to it.) I think that Zorn also feels that JC has this limitation. For this reason he is loathe to call for a play that depends on this kind of a pass. Of course, this greatly limits the playbook in the red zone and greatly reduces the number of times you call a bomb.
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:50 PM   #648
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I still have the same problem with JC. I can't remember a time when he got a pass over an off-line defender and to a receiver...especially in stride. He missed it on the first play. He missed it out of bounds on the sideline on another play. He's good when it's a laser, but not when it's touch. How many times can we remember that he missed an open receiver deep...and who can remember when he hit?
Now, the type of pass needed in the red zone is over a defender unless you can split a seam. But for JC I think this is a low-percentage play. That's why they don't throw a fade in the corner of the endzone. That's also the kind of pass play needed for bombs. The lack of that particular technique for JC is the reason why the WRs exploded when Collins came in several years ago. While he has a noodle arm, he is better at this kind of pass. This is also the reason that Moss has never succeeded with Jason Campbell: the routes he runs requires a QB that can deliver the ball over the top with reasonably consistent accuracy (and time to adjust to it.) I think that Zorn also feels that JC has this limitation. For this reason he is loathe to call for a play that depends on this kind of a pass. Of course, this greatly limits the playbook in the red zone and greatly reduces the number of times you call a bomb.
Well I think this season Moss hasn't shown up to play.
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:44 AM   #650
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:51 AM   #651
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I was impressed with what Campbell did today. He looked relaxed and poised and made some good heads up plays. It is unfortunate we stall out inside the Red Zone but I feel like we did okay overall. We need to change up our play calling down there and those guys need to make those catches too.
I liked what JC did today and the play calling was much better. Now we just need Zorn and JC to work on our red zone plays. If we can just keep improving each week I'll be happy and the long plays will come.
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I liked what JC did today and the play calling was much better. Now we just need Zorn and JC to work on our red zone plays. If we can just keep improving each week I'll be happy and the long plays will come.
I agree firstdown. I think Zorn will find the answer to his redzone problems and we'll continue to get better. It wouldn't surprise me if we start scoring in bunches as the season progresses. He has admitted it's his job to figure this out and he needs to look at this really hard. He'll figure it out, he has to.
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:22 PM   #655
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Well I think this season Moss hasn't shown up to play.
No excuse, but he's probably tired of running his butt of to no avail. We have QB that can throw the ball but can't figure out where.
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guess it's time to unsticky this
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