Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints)

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Poor Texans...+11 in pt. differential, and now at 5-7. Of course, with the Steelers loss, they aren't quite out of it (if the Jags lose 3 of 4).

Lotta pain here in Houston. I go to a bar where there's lots of Texans fans--they've had some brutal loses since I've been down here (about 2 years). One good thing about Texans fans: they hate the cowboys.

[Bozzy]

What I don't get is that on that punt that hit a Redskin and was recovered by a Saint....the Saint that recovered it had just come from OUT OF BOUNDS.

I thought it was a penalty to TOUCH THE BALL FIRST when you go out of bounds?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

I think I heard on the WTEM that Cerrato bitched at Zorn after the game...

Cerrato yelled at Zorn last week. Don't know about this week

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I know, I know...everyone's life is over because the Redskins at 3-8 lost to the 11-0 Saints thanks to overpaid athletes and management that don't care about winning nearly as much about the Redskins as the fans do. Woe is all of us. Most Redskins fans predicted a devastating loss going into the game, and just as many were hoping for one a) because they wanted Gregg Williams to stick it to the Redskins and b) every loss is a step closer to kicking Cerrato to the curb.

Before we get to the smack down, let's look at some positives: We're only the second team this year to put 30 points up on the board against Genius Williams (so apologies to every Redskins fan out there that was rooting more so for Williams than the Skins today). Devin Thomas had a beast of a game (indirect props to Cerrato for drafting him and Hixon for coaching him). Davis has done a great job since Cooley went down being Campbell's go-to guy when he needs one. I'm really becoming a big Ganther fan. He's not a starter (meaning 25+ carries/game) but he knows what to do out there and he does it well.

And of course Jason Campbell had another very strong performance (except for that INT)

The Redskins have lost the last three game by seven points...combined. It doesn't get more frustrating than that. But if there's a positive here it's that the last two games have been the best offensive performances we've had since probably last September. And we're doing it with guys like Thomas, Ganther, and Davis leading the way...not Randle El, Portis, and Cooley.

Still, it's time to lay the smack down.

Laron Landry For every spectacular play...he screws up on five basic plays. I'd rather he be consistently solid then occasionally awesome.

The Officiating I'd rather they just be consistent

Shaun Suisham Truthfully, even before the field goal (which I never imagined he'd miss) I was hoping the Redskins would be a little more aggressive in the red zone after the DT facemask. But still, even with the conservative playcalling and the high snap there's no excuse for yet another miss in the clutch like that for Suisham. I don't like kneejerk reactions but this is a recurring situation it seems with Suisham...is it time to cut him and just sign Rayner back for the remainder of the year.

It was a frustrating loss for sure, but most of never even gave them a chance to be in it long enough to even be a frustrating loss.

#1- Yes I was torn as to which to root for, a win against a team 11-0 and against GW or a loss to help facilitate Cerrato's demise. The last two weeks scoring over 20 points does not help and todays 30 points especially.

#2- 3yrs with Gibbs 2yrs with Zorn, a total lack of developing any WR's, the mear fact that the only decent WR's we've had have been WR's brought in from other teams. Basically all you've done is make me wonder if someone else is not working with the WR's. It almost seems like they are making a concerted effort to coach Thomas, Kelly, and Davis finally cause the others are either hurt or you don't hear a lot from them from game to game. Oh, and I guess I can give Cerrato props for something, but I still hope his ass is gone at season's end.

#3- It's very exciting to see all the young talent coming to life, Thomas, Kelly, Davis, Ganther, Barnes, Mitchell, Westbrook, etc, etc.


Amazing....everyone is quick to blast Suisham, the Refs, and Landry but for whatever reason simply over look Sellers and his fumble/no fumble, JC's interception, Moore's failure to simply sit on the ball, Zorn's piss poor goal line play calls and I'm sure there are more I'm forgetting. Lets not just blast Shazam. No he's not perfect but if your going to blast him for missing 1 FG out of the many he made today is sad. That's like calling for JC's head for the interception even though he's had a great game otherwise.

[The Goat]

Nice thread!

That said it's telling (perversely so) when a loss somehow becomes a boost to Cerrato's reputation. WTF! And please, please don't say things like that weird little toady should be credited w/ the Orakpo pickup. Vinny did everything he could to get the joke Sanchez, and then he tried to mortgage the future yet a 2nd time (allegedly) to trade up for Orakpo instead of focusing on an oline that most experts and fans knew was a house of cards. I mean it's just gotten to a point of craziness...it's like the craziness within the organization rubs off on us fans too.

...whoever came up w/ the idea of Hall at FS might be a genius. I hope Barnes, Tryon, Westbrook and maybe Los could hold down our DB corp so Hall gets a shot at center field.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

What I don't get is that on that punt that hit a Redskin and was recovered by a Saint....the Saint that recovered it had just come from OUT OF BOUNDS.

I thought it was a penalty to TOUCH THE BALL FIRST when you go out of bounds?

Good question. I guess they are saying because the Redskin touched the ball essentially he didn't touch the ball first. The question is did he establish him self as being back in bounds? He only came back in bounds about 2-3 yrds and was only there for a few seconds prior to jumping on the ball.

I understand the Ed Hochuli rule but I still say it should not have been a reviewable play since the Ref on the ground called it "Down by Contact." Secondly....why did it take forever for JC to get the ball off so it would not get reviewed? I kept yelling at the tv for them to hike the ball. If nothing else take the penalty for false start for not having all your men set and worse case scenario punt the ball deep.

People are saying that the Moore interception should have been reveresed and ruled incomplete pass because I guess they are saying Fox had a side view showing the ball hitting the turf prior to bouncing up into Moore's hands.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Cerrato yelled at Zorn last week. Don't know about this week

If I was Zorn I'd ask him why he's yelling at me? His boy Sherm is calling the shots.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

If I was Zorn I'd ask him why he's yelling at me? His boy Sherm is calling the shots.

Except during the 2 min. drill which is when Zorn actually gets to wake up and play a little.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Except during the 2 min. drill which is when Zorn actually gets to wake up and play a little.

Which is what he allegedly was yelling at him about

[SmootSmack]

It's amazing how some people just can never give Cerrato and the front office credit for anything. Yeah so they tested the waters for Sanchez. So what? A lot of teams did. That's what front offices do. You explore all options. Yes we need to improve in certain areas (namely OL) but we do have several quality young players and the front office should get some credit for that.

[bigmarley4]

I'd give a mini smack down on some obnoxious bandwagon Saints fans at the game. I've never seen any group of fans with such crisp, bright brand new jerseys and hats that looked like they just came out of the box. I'd didn't see a single old-school jersey the entire day. Most were DC area people who would have been cheering for Skins last year...

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

What I don't get is that on that punt that hit a Redskin and was recovered by a Saint....the Saint that recovered it had just come from OUT OF BOUNDS.

I thought it was a penalty to TOUCH THE BALL FIRST when you go out of bounds?

It hit Barnes, so he was the first to touch it.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's amazing how some people just can never give Cerrato and the front office credit for anything. Yeah so they tested the waters for Sanchez. So what? A lot of teams did. That's what front offices do. You explore all options. Yes we need to improve in certain areas (namely OL) but we do have several quality young players and the front office should get some credit for that.

VC tried all he could to get Cutler. Allegedly, giving up several high draft picks, right?

VC tried all he could to get Sanchez, giving up multiple draft picks. He couldn't get him.

We were one of the finalists in getting each of the above two. If we would have gotten one of the them, it would have perhaps mortgaged our future even more. More of the same right?

I give VC credit for his record w/ the Skins while he's been here. It's not good. Sure, he gets some credit for some draft picks, but let's face it, Orakpo was a pretty clear pick and even though we've seen some good things the jury is still out of our 3 #2's from two years ago.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by bigmarley4

I'd give a mini smack down on some obnoxious bandwagon Saints fans at the game. I've never seen any group of fans with such crisp, bright brand new jerseys and hats that looked like they just came out of the box. I'd didn't see a single old-school jersey the entire day. Most were DC area people who would have been cheering for Skins last year...

My dad and younger brother were there and they said the same thing. SO annoying.

[redsk1]

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but did anyone watch Football Night In America last night. The question was posed to Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison, What would you do with Suisham? Both said w/out hesitation, i'd have to cut him.

Dungy said he's cost us two games and he'd have to cut him before he cost him his job. I tend to agree. It's a harsh business, but two games in 3 weeks. It would send a message that we don't like losing. I don't trust Suisham w/ big kicks.