Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Cody was built to be a NT....or a sumo wrestler.

He can move too.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Lotus

In the poll two people have voted so far for "other." What is the other? An Okie 5-2? A wide tackle 6? A 46? Just curious.

other is the defense the giants used on the swinging gate play

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by dmek25

other is the defense the giants used on the swinging gate play

The "Shut the Gate" defense?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Redskin301

I'd love a 43 34 hybrid D

That is what I want.
Going 3-4 as our base would be mistake.

[Redskin301]

I think hastlett will run somkind of hybrid of a 4-3 3-4 and maybie som 4-4 that's sound good to me

[ChickenMonkey]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Theres only one pure nosetackle in the draft and thats Terrance Cody. It's had to find guys right now in this class that weigh more then 310 pounds on the D-Line.

Cody isnt the only goog NT in the draft,some of the draft boards have

Dan Williams NT Tennesse rated #1...Anybody know where hes slotted

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

Cody isnt the only goog NT in the draft,some of the draft boards have

Dan Williams NT Tennesse rated #1...Anybody know where hes slotted

He's 311 pounds? Seems a little light for a pure nosetackle (you at least want a guy to be around 325 pounds), but Scouts Inc doesn't have a full review out on him yet. Then again Jay Ratliff is 303 pounds so you never know.

Nevertheless Williams is currently graded out as a first round prospect.

[KLHJ2]

Lets just run the 5-2 defense and get it over with. It's like the 3-4 but the OLB's are DE's. You play 3 DT's and keep AH from being the NT to keep him happy. It would look like this.

McIntosh & Fletcher at LB

RE Carter, DT Haynesworth, NT Daniels/Montgomery, DT Griffin, LE Orakpo

We would play to the strength of our defense which is the defensive line by keeping our best players on the field. Orakpo would have his hand back in the dirt most of the time. We would cover up our lack of depth at LB. Just like the 3-4 we could drop D-Linemen into zones, run stunts etc. I think that it is a good fit but then again what do I know? I'm just a fan with some football coaching books, a dream, and a keyboard.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Angry

Lets just run the 5-2 defense and get it over with. It's like the 3-4 but the OLB's are DE's. You play 3 DT's and keep AH from being the NT to keep him happy. It would look like this.

McIntosh & Fletcher at LB

RE Carter, DT Haynesworth, NT Daniels/Montgomery, DT Griffin, LE Orakpo

We would play to the strength of our defense which is the defensive line by keeping our best players on the field. Orakpo would have his hand back in the dirt most of the time. We would cover up our lack of depth at LB. Just like the 3-4 we could drop D-Linemen into zones, run stunts etc. I think that it is a good fit but then again what do I know? I'm just a fan with some football coaching books, a dream, and a keyboard.

Yeah, I like your idea of a 5-2, but heres the problem with that/why you havent seen it in the NFL; the NFL is a copy cat league, so therefore the 34 and 43 defense is in. Also, with a 52 your leaving 6 in coverage, some teams play with 3 down lineman and 8 guys in coverage, and still can't get the ball. Also if you play a team like Tennessee or Dallas, the QB can always drop back and roll out of the pocket and run. But other than those reasons, ya I've always wondered why there aren't any 5-2 defenses in college or pro football.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Yeah, I like your idea of a 5-2, but heres the problem with that/why you havent seen it in the NFL; the NFL is a copy cat league, so therefore the 34 and 43 defense is in. Also, with a 52 your leaving 6 in coverage, some teams play with 3 down lineman and 8 guys in coverage, and still can't get the ball. Also if you play a team like Tennessee or Dallas, the QB can always drop back and roll out of the pocket and run. But other than those reasons, ya I've always wondered why there aren't any 5-2 defenses in college or pro football.

Not necessarily, like I said before you can always drop a defensive lineman into coverage just like with the 34. Also if you get enough pressure it really doesn't matter who is open. As far as scrambling QB's are concerned you can always spy them. I would not run this defense exclusively, but on most 1st and 2nd downs and in obvious running situations.

[perez24]

I"m for any defense that makes critical stops in the 4th quarter and causes the occasional turnover.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by perez24

I"m for any defense that makes critical stops in the 4th quarter and causes the occasional turnover.

You mean the opposite of the Greg Blache defense?

[LandrySlice]

did we get any turnovers this past season? It sure didin't seem like it!