Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

why should our government use equipment to help a mulit-national Iranian revolution starting BP Oil?

Because its our coast line that its getting ready to hit. Help with the clean up then send BP a hugh bill.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Because its our coast line that its getting ready to hit. Help with the clean up then send BP a hugh bill.

I don't think they have enough to pay for this.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Because its our coast line that its getting ready to hit. Help with the clean up then send BP a hugh bill.

How can anyone be this bad at spelling?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I don't think they have enough to pay for this.

You where the guy just saying they are making record profits. Now when I question why Obama waited 7 days before doing anything no one has any answer for that. I got this from a boating site I visit from time to time and this is what someone says BP is doing as part of trying to control this. I have no clue if its correct but it did make sense.

27PMThe Discoverer Enterprise, is arriving at the scene of the oil spill as I type. BP is building a dome (think Umbrella) and we will lower it on drill pipe until it is just above the upper end of the drill pipe flowing oil into the sea. Since oil floats in water, the oil will float up into the umbrella - like an inverted funnel, then into the drill pipe and up to the rig 5000 ft. above. I assume there will be a submersible pump at the top of the umbrella to promote good flow. The Enterprise is equipped with special hull tanks that can hold 135,000 barrels (1 barrel = 42 gallons) of crude. The well is flowing about 5000 BBLS per Day now. At that rate it can bunker 27 days worth. The Enterprise also has crude oil off loading capabilities with a floating transfer hose. As its tanks get full, it will transfer the crude to shuttle tankers that will transfer the crude oil to shore. With dynamic positioning capabilities, the Enterprise can stay within a 12 ft. circle of being dead over the drill pipe end 5000 ft. below it. I will guess that the dome is being built 30 or 40 ft. in diameter. It can maintain station in as much as 90 knot winds across the bow. And we use our thrusters to also weather vane the rig so the wind is always over the bow. So, it can maintain station in a moderate hurricane.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You where the guy just saying they are making record profits. Now when I question why Obama waited 7 days before doing anything no one has any answer for that. I got this from a boating site I visit from time to time and this is what someone says BP is doing as part of trying to control this. I have no clue if its correct but it did make sense.

27PMThe Discoverer Enterprise, is arriving at the scene of the oil spill as I type. BP is building a dome (think Umbrella) and we will lower it on drill pipe until it is just above the upper end of the drill pipe flowing oil into the sea. Since oil floats in water, the oil will float up into the umbrella - like an inverted funnel, then into the drill pipe and up to the rig 5000 ft. above. I assume there will be a submersible pump at the top of the umbrella to promote good flow. The Enterprise is equipped with special hull tanks that can hold 135,000 barrels (1 barrel = 42 gallons) of crude. The well is flowing about 5000 BBLS per Day now. At that rate it can bunker 27 days worth. The Enterprise also has crude oil off loading capabilities with a floating transfer hose. As its tanks get full, it will transfer the crude to shuttle tankers that will transfer the crude oil to shore. With dynamic positioning capabilities, the Enterprise can stay within a 12 ft. circle of being dead over the drill pipe end 5000 ft. below it. I will guess that the dome is being built 30 or 40 ft. in diameter. It can maintain station in as much as 90 knot winds across the bow. And we use our thrusters to also weather vane the rig so the wind is always over the bow. So, it can maintain station in a moderate hurricane.

Actually BP downplayed the severity until yesterday. They falsley reported what was going on. who knows what's going on 1 mile beneath the ocean?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You where the guy just saying they are making record profits. Now when I question why Obama waited 7 days before doing anything no one has any answer for that.

The White House also is pushing back against criticism that the federal government hasn’t done enough responding to the spill. An administration official emails First Read that 1) Interior Secretary Salazar deployed his deputy to the Gulf the morning after the rig explosion; 2) the administration began immediately holding regular calls with BP officials; 3) President Obama began monitoring the situation and contacting governors whose states will be impacted; and 4) Obama dispatched DHS Secretary Napolitano, Secretary Salazar, and EPA Administrator Jackson to the Gulf to ensure that all is being done to respond to the spill. The administration official also says that 1,178 personnel have been deployed to protect the shoreline and wildlife; that 76 response vessels have been responding on site; and that 174,060 feet of boom/barrier have been deployed to contain the spill. And here’s one thing for all of us to remember: The initial focus, post-explosion, was the loss of human life, not the spill.

First thoughts: Crist makes his move - First Read - msnbc.com

[GhettoDogAllStars]

The spill is costing BP 6 million dollars per day. That's enough reason for me to believe they are doing *everything* they can to clean this up asap.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Actually BP downplayed the severity until yesterday. They falsley reported what was going on. who knows what's going on 1 mile beneath the ocean?

I have not seen any evidence that BP has tried to cover up the severity of what is happening. I think the first day or two they thought that they could get down and shut off those valves before any real impact but that did not happen. I can't hold that against them as misleading because like you said its 5,000 feet beneath the sea.

[CRedskinsRule]

Amazing how everyone seems to want to assess blame any chance they get. Not just in this incident. People are not perfect saints, yet when mistakes are made or things don't go the way it "seems" it should, "everyone" screams that so and so aren't doing enough. Maybe, just maybe, life takes time. Life unfolds and each step you take can't be undone, each action causes chain reactions. Life is not immediacy, it is sad to see the environmental devastation unfolding, and I hope everyone involved is giving their best efforts, but no one who holds a lot of responsibility drops everything immediately for one incident, no matter how bad, because they are responsible for tens, hundreds, or thousands of other equally important things that if they just suddenly ignored, could go bad quickly.
BP/the Government/Pres Obama are handling this, and trying to do the best for everyone involved.

Please stop the blame game.

[CRedskinsRule]

and I am not saying don't investigate, or find out if criminal negligence was involved. Only, that until a thorough investigation is done, lets lend support to all those who are trying to prevent even more ecological and economic devastation in New Orleans and the surrounding areas.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The White House also is pushing back against criticism that the federal government hasn’t done enough responding to the spill. An administration official emails First Read that 1) Interior Secretary Salazar deployed his deputy to the Gulf the morning after the rig explosion; 2) the administration began immediately holding regular calls with BP officials; 3) President Obama began monitoring the situation and contacting governors whose states will be impacted; and 4) Obama dispatched DHS Secretary Napolitano, Secretary Salazar, and EPA Administrator Jackson to the Gulf to ensure that all is being done to respond to the spill. The administration official also says that 1,178 personnel have been deployed to protect the shoreline and wildlife; that 76 response vessels have been responding on site; and that 174,060 feet of boom/barrier have been deployed to contain the spill. And here’s one thing for all of us to remember: The initial focus, post-explosion, was the loss of human life, not the spill.

First thoughts: Crist makes his move - First Read - msnbc.com

He just dispatched the national guard yesterday and if I'm correct BP did most of the other stuff.

[firstdown]

Watching the news this morning and this is going to get really nasty. Those booms are worthless when the waves are kicking up and with 20 mph winds like they are getting the oil will wash right over them. From the pics I have seen the booms are washing up on the beach so they won't do any good like that. We can point fingers all day but the fact is there is not much anyone can do now but clean it up as it washes ashore.

[GMScud]

Some idiots at BP made a catastrophic mistake and people immediately want to start playing the political blame game. Pathetic. I'm sure this democratic administration is doing just as much as any republican administration would.

This is an ecological and economic disaster for the gulf areas down there. The focus should be on wildlife, cleanup,and the families/jobs/businesses left in ruin as a result. The fact that people are politicizing this is further proof of how irreparably partisan and broken our government has become.

Get a grip.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Some idiots at BP made a catastrophic mistake and people immediately want to start playing the political blame game. Pathetic. I'm sure this democratic administration is doing just as much as any republican administration would.

This is an ecological and economic disaster for the gulf areas down there. The focus should be on wildlife, cleanup,and the families/jobs/businesses left in ruin as a result. The fact that people are politicizing this is further proof of how irreperably partisan and broken our government has become.

Get a grip.

Smartest post yet.

Sometimes just looking a situation for what it is instead of trying to figure out which side of the government is conspiring behind it is all that really needs to be said.

[joethiesmanfan]

Getting worse, I don't think we can stop this. It appears the leak is increasing in severity by the day. The spill tripled in size in 2 days. There are 10's of millions of barrells of oil in the deposit they were tapping. This is some history making stuff. 2,000 years from now this will be America's lasting legacy. The modern day Tower of Babel. The consequences of man trying to play god. It's time we reevaluate everything. God don't like ugly I blame Arizona forn this curse.