Guard watches coast for oil slick's first wave

[MTK]

I was in Clearwater Beach a few weeks ago, man if those beaches end up ruined I'm going to be seriously bummed. Such a nice area.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Getting worse, I don't think we can stop this. It appears the leak is increasing in severity by the day. The spill tripled in size in 2 days. There are 10's of millions of barrells of oil in the deposit they were tapping. This is some history making stuff. 2,000 years from now this will be America's lasting legacy. The modern day Tower of Babel. The consequences of man trying to play god. It's time we reevaluate everything. God don't like ugly I blame Arizona forn this curse.

Do you also blame Arizona for the floods in Ten. and the attempted bombing in NY? I guess Tiger Woods not making the cut this weekend was also racest and to be blamed on Arizona.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I was in Clearwater Beach a few weeks ago, man if those beaches end up ruined I'm going to be seriously bummed. Such a nice area.

I live five minutes from the beach, and at this time of year I'm there almost every weekend. Won't be the same if I can't go

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I can't even imagine how much damage it will cause if it takes that long to get it capped. Unbelievable.

One would think they'd have emergency capping system at the bottom of the sea. I guess simply sticking in a drill is cheaper.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

One would think they'd have emergency capping system at the bottom of the sea. I guess simply sticking in a drill is cheaper.

You know they did, and the emergency system failed. I imagine the new regulations will call for a redundant fail safe. And that would be a good thing, especially when you are nearly a mile under water.


Side note: the USAF A-10 warthog was an ugly looking, but very effective tank killer. The reason it was so effective is because it was super redundant, it could lose half the airplane systems, and one of its two engines and still complete the mission. Clearly expensive, but worth it. Same would be true with any emergency system that is the only stop to a disaster of this magnitude.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

One would think they'd have emergency capping system at the bottom of the sea. I guess simply sticking in a drill is cheaper.

If what I read was correct they have two shut off valves. One failed which shuts off the oil automatically and the other they cannot reach because the structured collasped around the valve. Sounds like they need 4 of them so two will shut off automatically and the others as a back up.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by firstdown

If what I read was correct they have two shut off valves. One failed which shuts off the oil automatically and the other they cannot reach because the structured collasped around the valve. Sounds like they need 4 of them so two will shut off automatically and the others as a back up.

Plus they need another tap into the reserve that can be activated in the event of a catastrophic failure at the main drill site.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Plus they need another tap into the reserve that can be activated in the event of a catastrophic failure at the main drill site.

They need to buy the oil we need. Those offshore drills only provide enough oil for one fifth of our consumption for 5 years. We can never get nature back. But hey who cares as long as we get some of that money. Can't let Russia and Arabs control the oil supply of the World. Only one problem though. If god wanted us to be an oil superpower he would have given us oil within our reach. Sometimes people must accept limitations and be humble. Certain situations we must do that. There is a reason why PRIDE is a sin.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

They need to buy the oil we need. Those offshore drills only provide enough oil for one fifth of our consumption for 5 years. We can never get nature back. But hey who cares as long as we get some of that money. Can't let Russia and Arabs control the oil supply of the World. Only one problem though. If god wanted us to be an oil superpower he would have given us oil within our reach. Sometimes people must accept limitations and be humble. Certain situations we must do that. There is a reason why PRIDE is a sin.

You do realize that other nations are drilling oil in the golf? So even if we stopped all drilling it would just be another nation drilling the oil. Either way nature is still at risk.

China, India, Cuba in Gulf oil partnership - May. 9, 2006

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You do realize that other nations are drilling oil in the golf? So even if we stopped all drilling it would just be another nation drilling the oil. Either way nature is still at risk.

China, India, Cuba in Gulf oil partnership - May. 9, 2006

So if other nations jump off a bridge are we gonna jump off the bridge too?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

So if other nations jump off a bridge are we gonna jump off the bridge too?

You ignored the point. If we stopped drilling the oil rigs will keep pumping and the threat is still there. So we loose out and then have to buy the oil from them even though our coast is still at the same risk. Now if you say stop everyone from drilling oil in the Gulf then thats a different subjet but I don't think Cuba will go for that.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You ignored the point. If we stopped drilling the oil rigs will keep pumping and the threat is still there. So we loose out and then have to buy the oil from them even though our coast is still at the same risk. Now if you say stop everyone from drilling oil in the Gulf then thats a different subjet but I don't think Cuba will go for that.

Well Cuba might go for that? Have we asked them?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Well Cuba might go for that? Have we asked them?

Yes I talked to them last night before I went to bed. They told me to tell the administration to go F*&% off. China then called and told me I better not screw with Cuba because that was their cash cow.

[firstdown]

Ok, I'm bad. We are watching this unfold and I just went out and purchased another SUV. I know but I just could not turn down this deal. The good news is this one does get better MPG then the one I'm replacing and the other one we own. My wife wanted to switch cars and drive this one but the other SUV we have is really bad on gas. I stood firm and told her no for the environment. Well actually thats not the truth its more to save my wallet and the extra gas cost to drive the other SUV. I just have a hard time down sizing and the other SUV we have to have to trailer the boat. I'll try better on our next car I promise. Maybe if gas really jumps I'll sell this one and make a few grand and down size. Ok that probably won't happen either.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by saden1

Yeah, BP should foot the entire cleanup bill. Politically it just keeps getting better for dems. This should give them cover in axing coast drilling....hopefully they'll use it.

So you LIKE being at the mercy of foreign countries who hate us for our oil? You LIKE paying more than you should?