Zorn finds Job.

The Goat · 02-01-2010, 01:22 AM

Look for the Ravens to only get better in the years ahead. Zorn will likely take Flacco to the next level, and that offense was already making strides.

Monkeydad · 02-01-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

JZ's a good dude...happy for him and his family

Doesn't have to move AT ALL.

Congrats and good luck Coach Zorn, this job will be a much better fit for you.

CRedskinsRule · 05-07-2010, 11:43 AM

Baltimore is feeling Zorn's glow:

Ravens' biggest offseason addition might be Zorn - baltimoresun.com

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Ravens offensive coordinator Cam Cameron called Zorn "the premier quarterback coach in the NFL for the last 15 years." Ravens Super Bowl-winning quarterback Trent Dilfer proclaimed him "the Butch Harmon of quarterbacks coaches," referring to the renowned golf instructor who served as Tiger Woods' longtime coach.

but Zorn is staying humble

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"I'm not God's gift to coaching," Zorn said. "I have to earn the right to be heard. I have to say things that they'll believe."

I do find that quote absolutely hilarious though!

53Fan · 05-07-2010, 11:52 AM

"I'm not God's gift to coaching," Zorn said.

You're not?!

JZ is a nice guy and a good QB coach. He was just in a little over his head here as far as being a HC.

joethiesmanfan · 05-07-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Baltimore is feeling Zorn's glow:

Ravens' biggest offseason addition might be Zorn - baltimoresun.com

but Zorn is staying humble

I do find that quote absolutely hilarious though!

I'm feeling Zorny.

skinsfan69 · 05-07-2010, 01:28 PM

Very funny that the last two people that ran our offenses, Zorn and Saunders are now working in Baltimore. I bet those two have already shared some funny stories.

skinsfan69 · 05-07-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Don't forget all the wild success Saunders has had since he escaped having JC of his QB.

I haven't checked, but I can only assume he's won like five super bowls since then.

Well first of all he hasn't had a OC job since he left here. Saunders is a proven guy. KC had a top 5 offense when he coached there. He just didn't have the personel to run his offense while in Washington.

GTripp0012 · 05-07-2010, 01:41 PM

He was the OC in St. Louis in 2008. That Rams team put up 232 points, or about 2/3 of those underachievers on the 2007 Redskins (334), and about 4/5 as many as that "west coast" Redskins offense of 08 (265).

skinsfan69 · 05-07-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He was the OC in St. Louis in 2008. That Rams team put up 232 points, or about 2/3 of those underachievers on the 2007 Redskins (334), and about 4/5 as many as that "west coast" Redskins offense of 08 (265).

well i don't think it matters who was running the rams offense the last few years.

FRPLG · 05-07-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

well i don't think it matters who was running the rams offense the last few years.

I think his point was that Al hasn't proved much anywhere with any personnel anytime recently.

Beemnseven · 05-07-2010, 02:13 PM

I always wanted to see Al Saunders for at least one more year with complete autonomy with the offense.

GTripp0012 · 05-07-2010, 02:14 PM

My point, as FRPLG alluded to, is that what worked for Saunders in 2002-2005 when he had top personnel simply hasn't translated outside of the Rams/Chiefs Vermiel system, with other sets of personnel.

Basically, it appears that Saunders was kind of a non-factor in the output of those offenses. That's not to argue that he isn't doing his job as a coach, as he's had success when all of his other parts were built for him and he merely needed to call the plays, but as he added (personnel) responsibility, future success alluded him. Which kind of debunks the myth that he's some great offensive mind held back by quarterbacking in Washington and St. Louis.

Which, to be fair, wasn't skinsfan69's argument. It was irish's argument that I responded to a few months ago.

Mechanix544 · 05-07-2010, 02:34 PM

I think that zorn will be just fine in baltimore. Good luck pal.

SirClintonPortis · 05-07-2010, 04:22 PM

Zorn's good at being a mentor and is knowledgeable at his specialty. He wasn't too good of a manager or communicator, and was oblivious to some of the finer aspects of being a good OC.

NYCskinfan82 · 05-07-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Zorn's good at being a mentor and is knowledgeable at his specialty. He wasn't too good of a manager or communicator, and was oblivious to some of the finer aspects of being a good OC.

Well said, keep it simple for Zorn and he's good QB Coach. BRILLIANT!

02-01-2010, 01:22 AM	#31
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Zorn finds Job. Look for the Ravens to only get better in the years ahead. Zorn will likely take Flacco to the next level, and that offense was already making strides. __________________ 24-34

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53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Zorn finds Job. "I'm not God's gift to coaching," Zorn said. You're not?! JZ is a nice guy and a good QB coach. He was just in a little over his head here as far as being a HC. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

05-07-2010, 01:28 PM	#36
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,281	Re: Zorn finds Job. Very funny that the last two people that ran our offenses, Zorn and Saunders are now working in Baltimore. I bet those two have already shared some funny stories.

05-07-2010, 01:41 PM	#38
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: Zorn finds Job. He was the OC in St. Louis in 2008. That Rams team put up 232 points, or about 2/3 of those underachievers on the 2007 Redskins (334), and about 4/5 as many as that "west coast" Redskins offense of 08 (265). __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

05-07-2010, 02:13 PM	#41
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Zorn finds Job. I always wanted to see Al Saunders for at least one more year with complete autonomy with the offense.

05-07-2010, 02:14 PM	#42
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: Zorn finds Job. My point, as FRPLG alluded to, is that what worked for Saunders in 2002-2005 when he had top personnel simply hasn't translated outside of the Rams/Chiefs Vermiel system, with other sets of personnel. Basically, it appears that Saunders was kind of a non-factor in the output of those offenses. That's not to argue that he isn't doing his job as a coach, as he's had success when all of his other parts were built for him and he merely needed to call the plays, but as he added (personnel) responsibility, future success alluded him. Which kind of debunks the myth that he's some great offensive mind held back by quarterbacking in Washington and St. Louis. Which, to be fair, wasn't skinsfan69's argument. It was irish's argument that I responded to a few months ago. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

05-07-2010, 02:34 PM	#43
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: Zorn finds Job. I think that zorn will be just fine in baltimore. Good luck pal.

05-07-2010, 04:22 PM	#44
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Zorn finds Job. Zorn's good at being a mentor and is knowledgeable at his specialty. He wasn't too good of a manager or communicator, and was oblivious to some of the finer aspects of being a good OC. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

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