Haynesworth is Behaving Selfishly

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The Haynesworth thing is the biggest non-story of the NFL off-season. If the only reports on the situation were accurate reports, there wouldn't be a story.

There is a day that this will no longer be a regurgitated daily media "watch". How far off that day is, only Brett Favre truly knows.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Haynesworth feels "deceived" by Redskins
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on May 17, 2010 7:32 PM ET
Owner Dan Snyder is disappointed by his defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth.

Haynesworth, for his part, doesn't feel that he's been treated fairly. According to NFL Network's Jason La Canfora, those close to Haynesworth say he feels that he's been sold a bill of goods. The word used was "deceived."

Here's how they are selling it:

Haynesworth was promised before signing he could attack the quarterback when he came to Washington. The Redskins even considered trying to bring his old Titans defensive line coach Jim Washburn to town. Haynesworth had Snyder's ear.

Now that's all changed. He's being asked to occupy blockers, and he can't go around the coaches to get to Snyder anymore.

To this, we say: grow up. Things in life happen that are bigger than you. Coaches get fired, schemes change.

The Haynesworth camp would be better off not giving his side of the story.

Looks like fans here love to fuel up this non-story by posting these TMZ-like articles.

Just for those keeping score at home, here are some voluntary workouts/camps absences, you know that horrible crime sanctioned by the UN...

Andre Johnson of Houston Texans skips workout - ESPN

Cleveland Browns kicker Phil Dawson absent with contract issues - ESPN

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Looks like fans here love to fuel up this non-story by posting these TMZ-like articles.

Just for those keeping score at home, here are some voluntary workouts/camps absences, you know that horrible crime sanctioned by the UN...

Andre Johnson of Houston Texans skips workout - ESPN

Cleveland Browns kicker Phil Dawson absent with contract issues - ESPN

You can poke at this non-story and defend AH, however here's a quote from the article:

"One of the things that was real smart on his (D. Ryans) part was the fact that he was upset that we had not been able to come to terms with an agreement, but he came back and was a part of the offseason workout and he was with his teammates, he was a leader and he did things the right way," Smith said. "He played his contract out and he was rewarded."

Despite being a talented, veteran player who is among the highest paid in the NFL, AH is not doing things the right way. Fans have a right to be disappointed with his behavior (I couldn't care less about the talking heads). Again, this is no mystery/surprise, but it's still disappointing.

Also from the article: "Obviously we want Andre here," coach Gary Kubiak said. "I know he and Rick are talking, so we'll get it worked out. We're not worried about Andre. He'll do his job."

When mandatory activities begin will AH "do his job", I'm confident he will. But could he have made the team more cohesive and better by being here with everyone else (100% attendance outside of AH), absolutely yes. I find it hard to fault any Redskin fan who is angry that AH is purposefully and selfishly hurting the team.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You can poke at this non-story and defend AH, however here's a quote from the article

When mandatory activities begin will AH "do his job", I'm confident he will. But could he have made the team more cohesive and better by being here with everyone else (100% attendance outside of AH), absolutely yes. I find it hard to fault any Redskin fan who is angry that AH is purposefully and selfishly hurting the team.

I'm not poking fun, it's just that this whole thing is getting tired. Yes we know he's missing camp, yes he should be there, and yes these camps/workouts are mandatory. You can probably add all the stories and all the threads posted about this, and they all say the same thing. People just need to get over it and wait until mandatory camp and then comment.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You can poke at this non-story and defend AH, however here's a quote from the article:

"One of the things that was real smart on his (D. Ryans) part was the fact that he was upset that we had not been able to come to terms with an agreement, but he came back and was a part of the offseason workout and he was with his teammates, he was a leader and he did things the right way," Smith said. "He played his contract out and he was rewarded."

Despite being a talented, veteran player who is among the highest paid in the NFL, AH is not doing things the right way. Fans have a right to be disappointed with his behavior (I couldn't care less about the talking heads). Again, this is no mystery/surprise, but it's still disappointing.

Also from the article: "Obviously we want Andre here," coach Gary Kubiak said. "I know he and Rick are talking, so we'll get it worked out. We're not worried about Andre. He'll do his job."

When mandatory activities begin will AH "do his job", I'm confident he will. But could he have made the team more cohesive and better by being here with everyone else (100% attendance outside of AH), absolutely yes. I find it hard to fault any Redskin fan who is angry that AH is purposefully and selfishly hurting the team.

It's not a position I hold, but I think this is really well said.

[Pocket$ $traight]

How many times does Jared LaCanfora have to lie to your face before people stop listening to him? His Redskins reports are useless.

I heard Lavar yapping today about Godzilla too. Until Al is officially out the door, this topic needs to die.

And btw, Jared LaCanfora is a farce. He should have been fired by NFL Network after the draft when Jared and his buddy Reid created this nonsense. At least Reid has decided to abandon ship.

When you pay the most dominant player in the NFL (voted by his peers) 21 million dollars, you don't trade him for a 3rd and a 4th in next year's draft. Sorry people...

[ethat001]

I know this would never happen because $$$ matters more than anything for these guys, but...

Is there anything Haynesworth could do by missing these practices that would invalidate part of his contract? I imagine if he refused to come in for mandatory practices, etc..

And what if we told him to play NT and he played half-heartedly, or even faked an injury... Does anyone know if his contract has any sort of enforcement?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by ethat001

I know this would never happen because $$$ matters more than anything for these guys, but...

Is there anything Haynesworth could do by missing these practices that would invalidate part of his contract? I imagine if he refused to come in for mandatory practices, etc..

And what if we told him to play NT and he played half-heartedly, or even faked an injury... Does anyone know if his contract has any sort of enforcement?

Haynesworth would never do anything that could be proven as a "faked" injury, and how can you really prove he was playing halfheartedly? You could point to certain plays on film and say he wasn't giving his best, but tanking and faking injuries will only further derail his future earnings. Sure he dicked around last year as far as practice and injury exaggeration, but he knew he was ridiculously paid no matter what. I don't know contractual legalese, but I doubt you can add a clause that involves salary reduction based on perceived lack of effort on gamedays, or fake injuries.

He'll have to toe the Shanahan line at some point if he wants to be successful here and/or get another big payday from another team. Or maybe he's content with what he's earned so far and he half-asses his way through the rest of his career. I hope it's the former, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.

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Now if AH did leak the whole being DECEIVED by DS thing is true. We will have a problem on our hands.

There hasnt been one word from AH's camp about him being upset, until now. Its funny how soon after D.Snyder comments this weekend we get the first rumbling from AH's people. True or not there could be something to it. Using the word Deceived sounds really personal, now if he and DS had an open dialogue last season and now its no more, If thats me I would feel a little betrade, and then I hear those comments from DS this weekend. I wouldnt be happy, I'd be pissed like my charactor is being attacked. I've been quite so far, and now a teammate just called me out, the owner of the team, who, I thought wouldn't go to the press about this just did. So yeah I could see him feeling deceived.

Now if AH doesnt come out in a week or two and says "Hey words have been put in my mouth, they arent true so dont pay it any mind. Im just replacing Brett Favre right now." Then we might have something here hopefully not.He did say he didnt want to be a distraction. He is one now and he can be the only one to stop it.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Aren't you supposed to be halfway to plastered by now?

Hahaha. Just saw this post. We didn't get it started until about 7:30 on Saturday night, but yeah, it was a ton of fun.

[GMScud]

It's not too often I side with PFT/Florio, but this is dead on IMO:


Haynesworth was promised before signing he could attack the quarterback when he came to Washington. The Redskins even considered trying to bring his old Titans defensive line coach Jim Washburn to town. Haynesworth had Snyder's ear.

Now that's all changed. He's being asked to occupy blockers, and he can't go around the coaches to get to Snyder anymore.

To this, we say: grow up. Things in life happen that are bigger than you. Coaches get fired, schemes change.

The Haynesworth camp would be better off not giving his side of the story.

Haynesworth feels "deceived" by Redskins | ProFootballTalk.com

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Andre Johnson of Houston Texans skips workout - ESPN

So how does AH for AJ feel. Its way better than the whole 3rd rounder or 4th bullshit. Maybe its a reach, well it is a reach. I would be real comfortable with this move for a WR, and now he is disgruntled maybe there could be something here. The coaches are all very close and personable we need a WR they could use a beast like AH. Maybe we can get AJ for a Moss and someone else they need help with their running game. We can sign B. Westbrook and trade any of the other 3 with Moss attached. Just a thought.

[ethat001]

Originally Posted by GMScud

It's not too often I side with PFT/Florio, but this is dead on IMO:

The Haynesworth camp would be better off not giving his side of the story.

Haynesworth feels "deceived" by Redskins | ProFootballTalk.com

I agree, but to be clear, Haynesworth hasn't said anything yet. JLC is putting words in his mouth to stir up trouble. We're being "deceived"...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

It's not too often I side with PFT/Florio, but this is dead on IMO:


Haynesworth was promised before signing he could attack the quarterback when he came to Washington. The Redskins even considered trying to bring his old Titans defensive line coach Jim Washburn to town. Haynesworth had Snyder's ear.

Now that's all changed. He's being asked to occupy blockers, and he can't go around the coaches to get to Snyder anymore.

To this, we say: grow up. Things in life happen that are bigger than you. Coaches get fired, schemes change.

The Haynesworth camp would be better off not giving his side of the story.

Haynesworth feels "deceived" by Redskins | ProFootballTalk.com

There really isn't a side of the story to give. There was a voluntary mini-camp. He's on a workout regiment in Tennessee that, in his estimation, prevented him from going.

I guess his side of the story might be "I'm a better player for not going". A lot of fans would call bs on that, I suppose. Saying "he should have been there" is too broad for my tastes. Maybe the best argument against Haynesworth's actions is that his head coach thought he should be there.

I guess I can see the selfishness in trying to make yourself the best player you can be (at the expense of...well, something), but I don't know. This is pretty ridiculous that the fans and media are more worked up about this than the Redskins are.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Haynesworth would never do anything that could be proven as a "faked" injury, and how can you really prove he was playing halfheartedly? You could point to certain plays on film and say he wasn't giving his best, but tanking and faking injuries will only further derail his future earnings. Sure he dicked around last year as far as practice and injury exaggeration, but he knew he was ridiculously paid no matter what. I don't know contractual legalese, but I doubt you can add a clause that involves salary reduction based on perceived lack of effort on gamedays, or fake injuries.

He'll have to toe the Shanahan line at some point if he wants to be successful here and/or get another big payday from another team. Or maybe he's content with what he's earned so far and he half-asses his way through the rest of his career. I hope it's the former, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.

I just hope my boss doesn't include a salary reduction for time spent on the warpath, and days I called in with a "cough". (ok, i haven't called in in the last year, but the warpath deduction would probably take my whole salary)